[Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original

Wed Nov 6 19:51:16 EST 2013

Hi Ben, Can I have your permission to forward your email to another Rover group that I belong to as I think many there will enjoy your writings.
Den

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From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Ben Saunders
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:38 AM
To: 'Rovernet'
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original

Hello Patrick,
How do you think you will feel after you T-bone a large station wagon at 50 MPH in your Interceptor?  Or better yet ask Ralph Nader why he stated that all cars should be built like a Rover P6 in 1967. The TC 2000 could out stop any car of similar design and cost and the 3500S was not far behind. Rover is the only car manufacturer that advertised the cars speed from 60 to 0 and not the other way. In those days they cared more for the driver than bottom line. Even the dash and control knobs were designed to keep the driver's eyes on the road. I wonder what the Rover engineers would think about putting a GPS TV on the upper dash.  I do agree in that the car is complicated and the suspension is way out there in its design but that is what makes it to me more a marvel then a mistake. Try to take a hard turn on a washboard road and let me know where your rear end lands.  I agree with the Borg Warner being a disappointment but it may have been their only choice in that the ZF had yet to come on the market. I hope to have mine running soon with the ZF 4HP22 and will let you know how it does. As for power the Carter 4 BBL makes a lot of difference and improves the gas mileage. Years ago folks told me that the Carter 4 BBL on my 3500S was not original and I was quick to inform them that it was more original than the twin SU's. We had a Olds F85 when I was young and it was fast with a 2 BBL but the handling was terrible so I have a good gage to go by when I say that the 3500S and TC 2000 were very well designed cars for their time and are still far safer that most cars today. Also keep in mind that Rover was the last British car company to go which says a lot. Even the SD1, as cheap as it seemed, was far out in front of the curve in the construction than any other car company and once again Rover set the bar height for others to follow. I think the most interesting thing for me is the history of all the inventive things that Rover came up with starting with the bicycle. I feel sure that they invented the VW since Porsche drove a Scarab (a beetle) in
1931 and also had seen the opposed 2 cylinder air cooled engine that Rover had in its earlier cars. Doesn't take much to figure that one out. I am glad to say that I still suffer from the lifelong addiction to Rovers. To me it is the challenges that make living worthwhile. 
Ben

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From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of phing at videotron.ca
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:55 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original 

Hi
I hate to tell you  but this car is priced properly ,any P6B is not worth more. A  NADA P6B cured me of a life long addiction to Rovers. These cars were hopelessly, stupidly,  over engineered  . The engine bay was supposedly designed for a gas turbine !! resulting in a complex front suspension , the rear end De dion was a heavy  rust prone joke [ Triumph built a proper IRS ] The V8 was gutless even after removing the AED and smog stuff , the brakes were a pig to overhaul , the rear brakes made an E type Jaguar's accessibility  look good , Rover were too cheap to either find a decent 5 speed ,manual or a modern auto box , instead they persisted with that dreadful Borg Warner box. . Build quality was atrocious , the interior used plastic seats and wood trim  instead of leather and tree wood  etc . The contemporary Triumph 6 cylinder sedan was a better car The P6B was a gas guzzling disappointment .
I was happy to swap it for another British car with a V8, excellent automatic transmission and A/C a Jensen interceptor  which uses similar amounts of fuel but is a lot more fun Cheers Patrick

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From: GeffMcCarthy
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:06 PM
To: 'Rovernet'
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original

PPS...!  My car is 433000340A, this one is 1552A, and James Taylor's book shows that 2043 Federal 3500S were produced. I assume these went to both USA and Canada.
It is sad that our beloved Rovers do not command higher prices...

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From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Rymes
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:10 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original

> On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com> wrote:
>
> Here is the link to a 1970 Rover 3500S NADA that seems to be very 
> original and in fantastic condition.

Here's a better link, Ben's was broken:

http://cgi.ebay.com/141105430488

Tom

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