[Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original

Wed Nov 6 14:27:40 EST 2013

Hear Hear Ben!

Regards

Alan

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> On 6 Nov 2013, at 18:38, "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Patrick,
> How do you think you will feel after you T-bone a large station wagon at 50
> MPH in your Interceptor?  Or better yet ask Ralph Nader why he stated that
> all cars should be built like a Rover P6 in 1967. The TC 2000 could out stop
> any car of similar design and cost and the 3500S was not far behind. Rover
> is the only car manufacturer that advertised the cars speed from 60 to 0 and
> not the other way. In those days they cared more for the driver than bottom
> line. Even the dash and control knobs were designed to keep the driver's
> eyes on the road. I wonder what the Rover engineers would think about
> putting a GPS TV on the upper dash.  I do agree in that the car is
> complicated and the suspension is way out there in its design but that is
> what makes it to me more a marvel then a mistake. Try to take a hard turn on
> a washboard road and let me know where your rear end lands.  I agree with
> the Borg Warner being a disappointment but it may have been their only
> choice in that the ZF had yet to come on the market. I hope to have mine
> running soon with the ZF 4HP22 and will let you know how it does. As for
> power the Carter 4 BBL makes a lot of difference and improves the gas
> mileage. Years ago folks told me that the Carter 4 BBL on my 3500S was not
> original and I was quick to inform them that it was more original than the
> twin SU's. We had a Olds F85 when I was young and it was fast with a 2 BBL
> but the handling was terrible so I have a good gage to go by when I say that
> the 3500S and TC 2000 were very well designed cars for their time and are
> still far safer that most cars today. Also keep in mind that Rover was the
> last British car company to go which says a lot. Even the SD1, as cheap as
> it seemed, was far out in front of the curve in the construction than any
> other car company and once again Rover set the bar height for others to
> follow. I think the most interesting thing for me is the history of all the
> inventive things that Rover came up with starting with the bicycle. I feel
> sure that they invented the VW since Porsche drove a Scarab (a beetle) in
> 1931 and also had seen the opposed 2 cylinder air cooled engine that Rover
> had in its earlier cars. Doesn't take much to figure that one out. I am glad
> to say that I still suffer from the lifelong addiction to Rovers. To me it
> is the challenges that make living worthwhile. 
> Ben
> 
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> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of
> phing at videotron.ca
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 2:55 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original 
> 
> Hi
> I hate to tell you  but this car is priced properly ,any P6B is not worth
> more. A  NADA P6B cured me of a life long addiction to Rovers. These cars
> were hopelessly, stupidly,  over engineered  . The engine bay was supposedly
> designed for a gas turbine !! resulting in a complex front suspension , the
> rear end De dion was a heavy  rust prone joke [ Triumph built a proper IRS ]
> The V8 was gutless even after removing the AED and smog stuff , the brakes
> were a pig to overhaul , the rear brakes made an E type Jaguar's
> accessibility  look good , Rover were too cheap to either find a decent 5
> speed ,manual or a modern auto box , instead they persisted with that
> dreadful Borg Warner box. . Build quality was atrocious , the interior used
> plastic seats and wood trim  instead of leather and tree wood  etc . The
> contemporary Triumph 6 cylinder sedan was a better car The P6B was a gas
> guzzling disappointment .
> I was happy to swap it for another British car with a V8, excellent
> automatic transmission and A/C a Jensen interceptor  which uses similar
> amounts of fuel but is a lot more fun Cheers Patrick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GeffMcCarthy
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:06 PM
> To: 'Rovernet'
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
> 
> PPS...!  My car is 433000340A, this one is 1552A, and James Taylor's book
> shows that 2043 Federal 3500S were produced. I assume these went to both USA
> and Canada.
> It is sad that our beloved Rovers do not command higher prices...
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Rymes
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:10 AM
> To: Rovernet
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
> 
>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is the link to a 1970 Rover 3500S NADA that seems to be very 
>> original and in fantastic condition.
> 
> 
> Here's a better link, Ben's was broken:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/141105430488
> 
> Tom
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