[Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
GeffMcCarthy
geffandjulie at comcast.net
Fri Nov 8 12:59:22 EST 2013
I can verify that Dermot does excellent caliper work. But... WP discovered
one or more errors in my re-assembly, and tested the brake under pressure.
Will let y'all know how this saga ends..
AvMedSafe
Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
-----Original Message-----
From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Dermot
Harvey
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:46 PM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
Hi Rovernetters!,
I have seen some of White Post's assembly work, and it is not good. I used
to use them just for sleeving and their work was OK but I do assembly myself
because I know how to do it and I get it right.
I have a pair of rear calipers that I rebuilt for Charlie Stutt. I am
selling them for his daughter.Contact me off list if you are interested.
Dermot Harvey
On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Steven Dibdin wrote:
> Yes, I would also say that once you get the hang of how the rear
> calipers work they aren't that bad. I have seen poorly rebuilt ones
> from 'pros'. I think it's because they aren't the regular design they
> just rebore and sleeve, fit new seals and slap a fresh coat of paint
> on. You have to replace the serrated wheel and spring to ensure they
> self adjust, not to mention making sure the handbrake cable is
> adjusted as per the workshop manual otherwise it will hamper self
adjustment too.
>
> My P6 never let me down. My modern SAAB, is terrible, I love how it
> drives but I'm always nervous about what's next. My conclusion is,
> it's down to the car's history. If it's had poor maintenance you'll be
> playing catch up (as I am with the SAAB). If it's had attention from
> the right people it'll remain reliable. A good example was that when I
> got the P6 the brakes had been 'rebuilt and refitted' by a Jaguar shop
> in the PNW. They were awful! I rebuilt the calipers, both servos and the
master cylinder within 6 months.
> They were fine for years after that.
>
> Sure P6's have a reputation, but they have never had the service
> support here they have in the UK. I think that's the key. If you have
> one you need to build a relationship with it yourself or pay for a
> real mechanic to build that relationship for you!
>
> I'll stop rambling now!
>
> Steven
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM, GeffMcCarthy
<geffandjulie at comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> I agree with most of your criticisms...but...owning any car is
>> irrational, especially British. I could make the same criticisms of
>> my Lotus Elan, but I loved it just the same.
>> I do think the P6 suspension is the best ever designed, and I have
>> had no trouble with the deDion tube. The rear brakes...well...they
>> have been back to White Post 2x in the last few months. Maybe I
>> shall reassemble and test them today...
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
>> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of
>> phing at videotron.ca
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 11:55 AM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
>>
>> Hi
>> I hate to tell you but this car is priced properly ,any P6B is not
>> worth more. A NADA P6B cured me of a life long addiction to Rovers.
>> These cars were hopelessly, stupidly, over engineered . The engine
>> bay was supposedly designed for a gas turbine !! resulting in a
>> complex front suspension , the rear end De dion was a heavy rust
>> prone joke [ Triumph built a proper IRS ] The V8 was gutless even
>> after removing the AED and smog stuff , the brakes were a pig to
>> overhaul , the rear brakes made an E type Jaguar's accessibility
>> look good , Rover were too cheap to either find a decent 5 speed
>> ,manual or a modern auto box , instead they persisted with that
>> dreadful Borg Warner box. . Build quality was atrocious , the
>> interior used plastic seats and wood trim instead of leather and
>> tree wood etc . The contemporary Triumph 6 cylinder sedan was a
>> better car The P6B was a gas guzzling disappointment .
>> I was happy to swap it for another British car with a V8, excellent
>> automatic transmission and A/C a Jensen interceptor which uses
>> similar amounts of fuel but is a lot more fun Cheers Patrick
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: GeffMcCarthy
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 1:06 PM
>> To: 'Rovernet'
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
>>
>> PPS...! My car is 433000340A, this one is 1552A, and James Taylor's
>> book shows that 2043 Federal 3500S were produced. I assume these went
>> to both USA and Canada.
>> It is sad that our beloved Rovers do not command higher prices...
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
>> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Tom Rymes
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:10 AM
>> To: Rovernet
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1970 3500S NAADA original
>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:37 AM, "Ben Saunders" <bsaunders at firstva.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here is the link to a 1970 Rover 3500S NADA that seems to be very
>>> original and in fantastic condition.
>>
>>
>> Here's a better link, Ben's was broken:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/141105430488
>>
>> Tom
>>
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