[Rovernet] 3 Litre V8 for sale in US

[GeffMcCarthy]

For anyone still interested, it sold on eBay for $2800.

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Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)

-----Original Message-----
From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Kent
Kinard
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 6:35 AM
To: Rovernet
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 3 Litre V8 for sale in US

Hi Netters,
Here we go again.  The carb on this engine is an Edelbrock, probably 500cfm.
Gross is correct about the Jetfire being the Olds turbocharged model.  My
swimming coach bought a new 1963 Jetfire four-speed and took me for a ride.
That's how I became hooked on the aluminum V8 at age 16.  I bought both
Jetfire and Skylark cars in 1974 and I still have some Jetfire parts.  Which
brings me to the point.  If the Olds performance was inferior, Gross, why
did TRACO choose to build the Olds version for their Can-Am engines?
Aftermarket stuff usually fits both engines...intakes, headers, ignition,
camshafts, so there is no indication of inferiority from aftermarket
development.  Mickey Thompson chose the Buick version for his Indy effort,
but he quickly realized the limitation of the Buick head bolt arrangement.
I must admit, the intake ports on the Thompson engines were huge.  Bigger
than anything I have seen on a Buick/Rover engine since.  I once owned one
of his four Weber cross-ram setups.

But now you've got me curious.  I'm going to go pull a set of Olds heads off
the shelf and compare the ports to the Buick/Rover ports.  If anyone would
like to play with the Jetfire turbo setup, I have one and it will fit on the
Rover.  All it's missing are the water/alcohol tank and the exhaust
manifolds.  It is really quite obsolete and the turbo scrolls backward
compared to modern turbos.  The only really useful piece for anything other
than restoration is the intake manifold.  It has an extremely low profile
and could be adapted to a Holley 2V carb, if anyone needs a really low
bonnet for some custom installation.  A mid-eighties Buick GN turbo could be
used with a 2" SU in a draw-through installation, but it would be much
simpler if you had the Jetfire right-hand exhaust manifold.

Olds used bigger valves (but not by much).  The biggest difference in the
heads, other than head bolts, is in the shape of the combustion chambers.
Buick used a semi-hemi fully machined chamber, whereas Olds used a
conventional wedge chamber much like the heart shaped chambers currently in
vogue for high performance Rovers.  Ian Richardson's Wildcat heads have
provision for eighteen head bolts because he did cast some Olds style blocks
with the extra bosses on the deck surface.  I am not sure if the new T/A
heads have such a provision, but their V6 heads and blocks do.  I just can't
see the Olds ports being very restricted by the extra head bolts, but I am
going to take a look on Thursday.

More later...

Roveroverboostedly,
Kent K.


Scruggs Family wrote:
> I'm certain that Dr. McCarthy intended to say "Jetfire" vice 
> "Skylark."  I recall this variant of the Oldsmobile F-85 was the first 
> production turbocharged car.  Although both the Buick and Olds engines 
> were aluminum V-8s the Olds used one more head bolt which went through 
> the already tortured intake tract guaranteeing restricted breathing 
> and no subsequent development from the aftermarket manufacturers.  
> Summer of '66 a friend and I drove one of these normally aspirated 
> F-85s from Anchorage AK to Meridian MS.
>
> Gross Scruggs
> Annapolis MD
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of 
> GeffMcCarthy
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:47 AM
> To: 'Rovernet'
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 3 Litre V8 for sale in US
>
> Interesting conversion using the almost identical Buick 215 cu in engine.
> It seems to have a 2 barrel carb.
> This engine, with a water-injected turbocharger, powered the 62 Olds 
> Skylark, an advanced, smaller American car.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of 
> GeffMcCarthy
> Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 10:13 AM
> To: 'Rovernet'
> Subject: [Rovernet] 3 Litre V8 for sale in US
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251374354802
> Looks like some restoration, and needs more.  The v8 was never 
> imported here, owing to the smog regulations which began in 1968.
>
> AvMedSafe
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
>
>


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