[Rovernet] Facebook to be or not to be is that the question? Vol 31, Issue 6
Dirk Burrowes
dirk at vy-tek.com
Mon Dec 28 06:50:06 EST 2015
Hello All,
I am always on the fence regarding Facebook. On one hand I see it as conformance to a silly way for people to be addicted to have something to do and to tell others there doing when there really just babbling and doing nothing.
On the other hand I have quite a few friends that will never use email or communicate any other way than by letter or phone. My argument to them (and it is usually about using any number of the club forums) is that we do have a duty to share the knowledge we have and the club forums do a pretty good job.
After Eric passed I had a hand in developing a new website for the RCCC and at that time it was unclear if we were going to be able to continue on with the Rovernet so we set up a forum on the site. Truth is it was never really used and it was not at all adopted it is no more.
So to be or not to be that is the question ?
I wonder if there is way to post on FB and the Rovernet at the same time? This might be a way to satisfy everyone and still maintain the group as one ?
Pictures are nice and they do allow something we can't get on Rovernet an easy archive.
I will ask those more knowledgeable than myself and report back.
All the Best for 2016
Dirk
10th anniversary of Rove America June 2-5 check it out on FB lol
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> 1. not facebook (Rover Man)
> 2. Re: Facebook for Rovernet (British Rover)
> 3. Re: Merry Christmas (British Rover)
> 4. Re: not facebook (British Rover)
> 5. Re: not Facebook (GeffMcCarthy)
> 6. Re: not Facebook (Steven Dibdin)
> 7. Re: Rovernet on Facebook? (Bosse Arnholm)
> 8. Re: Rovernet on Facebook? (David Read)
> 9. Re: Rovernet on Facebook? (Scott)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 18:34:04 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Rover Man <p4roverman at yahoo.com>
> To: "rovernet at rovernet.org" <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: [Rovernet] not facebook
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> I think RoverNet is best, i been on here for many years myself.i don't use any facebook .From Nelson
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> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 13:36:23 -0500
> From: British Rover <britishrover at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
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> BRAVO, Guys! You have a handle on what is most beneficial to what is
> needed! I belong to several ROVER Sites myself, and with a problem in
> hand, several Always Pop Up with the answers! Better than turning a
> page of a manual at times, and s6e of the Photos they provide are a
> heck of alot BETTER!
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 13:41:03 -0500
> From: British Rover <britishrover at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Merry Christmas
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> Good Write! ADMIN :-)
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 13:47:36 -0500
> From: British Rover <britishrover at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] not facebook
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> Rovernet has served Well, with Much Respect! Especially when there was
> nothing years ago, however Good to Valuable info, and Pictures, are
> Always Getting Scrubbed! Time for a change.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 13:05:13 -0800
> From: "GeffMcCarthy" <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.org>
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> Rovernet is very useful. However the inability to post links or photos
> limits its utility. FB would be better, IMHO.
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> Rovernet has served Well, with Much Respect! Especially when there was
> nothing years ago, however Good to Valuable info, and Pictures, are Always
> Getting Scrubbed! Time for a change.
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> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] not Facebook
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> I've got to agree. RoverNet is a great resource, however, the limitation in not being able to share links or images seriously stymies communication. I think FB makes the natural progression of RN. I'm already a member of the Classic Rover Forum (a stand alone site) and a few P6 related FB pages. I think RoverNet's mainly NADA based knowledge would be a good complement to the others.
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> Best,
>
> Steven
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>> On Dec 27, 2015, at 16:05, GeffMcCarthy via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Rovernet is very useful. However the inability to post links or photos
>> limits its utility. FB would be better, IMHO.
>>
>> AvMedSafe
>> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
>> 503-241-8468(h) 503-799-3809 (mobile)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of British
>> Rover via Rovernet
>> Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:48 AM
>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>> Cc: British Rover <britishrover at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] not facebook
>>
>> Rovernet has served Well, with Much Respect! Especially when there was
>> nothing years ago, however Good to Valuable info, and Pictures, are Always
>> Getting Scrubbed! Time for a change.
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> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 07:59:36 +0100
> From: Bosse Arnholm <bosse at arnholm.se>
> To: <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rovernet on Facebook?
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> Well,
> I am a retired oldie too, 67, and you will never convince to join the
> multibillion US company Facebook.
> I started th Rover Club of Sweden homepage many years ago, as well as
> some other web-sites.
> But before retiring I handed over all those sites to other people to be
> able to enjoy my freedom, which has made me able to make long, long
> timeconsuming trips in our boat as well as in our Rover cars.
>
> So what is Rovernet about?
> As I see it it's a meetingplace for Rover-friends. A place where you
> get help with everything about Rovers. Or send a message to tell
> everyone how you have solved some problem with your cars.
> What can be more easy and faster than that?
>
> Sorry, You will not see me on Facebook.
> Regards
>
> BosseA
>
> ----------------------------------
> Bosse Arnholm, S?dermalmsgatan 13, 431 69 M?lndal
> http://bosse.arnholm.se, http://kanaler.arnholm.nu,
> http://bcw.arnholm.nu
>
> 2015-12-27 18:00 skrev rovernet-request at rovernet.org:
>> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 07:32:56 +1030
>> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>> Message-ID: <567F0080.9060404 at ozemail.com.au>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>
>> Facebook can do as much or as little as you want it to.
>> You just need to take the time to set the page up properly in the
>> first
>> place!
>> This is the biggest sticking point ... it is too open/easy to set up
>> to
>> cater for the dweebs that want it to run "out of the box" and don't
>> want
>> to/cant be bothered to, tinker to improve security or limit access.
>>
>> Us "oldies" (I am 67) are often too set in our ways to embrace this
>> "new
>> fangled stuff" :-)
>>
>> I co-administer a closed Land Rover Club Facebook group exclusively
>> for
>> club members.
>> No noise, no chatter (apart from Land Rovers) no spam, just good
>> info,
>> PLENTY OF PICS (which Rovernet does not natively support) and
>> relevant
>> discussion of events, projects etc.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:58:01 +0000
>> From: Dennis Gallacher <dennis at allk9.com.au>
>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>> Subject: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>> Message-ID:
>> <1AEF75B838552F48AAADDBD3C34C127EBF754C6E at ADOPTK9DC1.adoptsec.local>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>
>> Im with you on this one Dave.
>> For many years I ran the Rover Australia Yahoo email group which I
>> started as a way of bringing those into Rovers a bit closer together
>> and to help those restoring Rovers to find parts or at least find
>> where to buy parts at a reasonable price..
>> It's the point of bringing like minded together that I now use
>> Facebook for as ever since I've been on it I found many of my old
>> British Army mates who I haven't spoken to in over 30 odd years..The
>> RSR is on it aswell as many sites catering for us Rover guys.
>>
>> No one seems to send in email much these days so like many old ways
>> of doing things I guess email groups will be a thing of the past..
>>
>> In short as Dave said..Facebook is as good or as bad as you make it
>> and so like it or not is the future
>> Den..
>> BTW My dear ol Mum- god bless her- had a Facebook page set it up when
>> she was 77 my 84 year old uncle is on it....You are as Old as you
>> want
>> to be..
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:18:23 +1030
> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Cc: Bosse Arnholm <bosse at arnholm.se>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rovernet on Facebook?
> Message-ID: <5680E947.4050600 at ozemail.com.au>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> I see Facebook as a adjunct to Rovernet, not a replacement.
> There should be plenty of room for both ..
>
> Cheers
> Dave
> South Oz
>
>> On 12/28/2015 5:29 PM, Bosse Arnholm via Rovernet wrote:
>> Well,
>> I am a retired oldie too, 67, and you will never convince to join the
>> multibillion US company Facebook.
>> I started th Rover Club of Sweden homepage many years ago, as well as
>> some other web-sites.
>> But before retiring I handed over all those sites to other people to be
>> able to enjoy my freedom, which has made me able to make long, long
>> timeconsuming trips in our boat as well as in our Rover cars.
>>
>> So what is Rovernet about?
>> As I see it it's a meetingplace for Rover-friends. A place where you get
>> help with everything about Rovers. Or send a message to tell everyone
>> how you have solved some problem with your cars.
>> What can be more easy and faster than that?
>>
>> Sorry, You will not see me on Facebook.
>> Regards
>>
>> BosseA
>>
>> ----------------------------------
>> Bosse Arnholm, S?dermalmsgatan 13, 431 69 M?lndal
>> http://bosse.arnholm.se, http://kanaler.arnholm.nu, http://bcw.arnholm.nu
>>
>> 2015-12-27 18:00 skrev rovernet-request at rovernet.org:
>>> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to
>>> rovernet at rovernet.org
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>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 07:32:56 +1030
>>> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
>>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>>> Message-ID: <567F0080.9060404 at ozemail.com.au>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Facebook can do as much or as little as you want it to.
>>> You just need to take the time to set the page up properly in the first
>>> place!
>>> This is the biggest sticking point ... it is too open/easy to set up to
>>> cater for the dweebs that want it to run "out of the box" and don't want
>>> to/cant be bothered to, tinker to improve security or limit access.
>>>
>>> Us "oldies" (I am 67) are often too set in our ways to embrace this "new
>>> fangled stuff" :-)
>>>
>>> I co-administer a closed Land Rover Club Facebook group exclusively for
>>> club members.
>>> No noise, no chatter (apart from Land Rovers) no spam, just good info,
>>> PLENTY OF PICS (which Rovernet does not natively support) and relevant
>>> discussion of events, projects etc.
>>>
>>> YMMV
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:58:01 +0000
>>> From: Dennis Gallacher <dennis at allk9.com.au>
>>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>> Subject: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1AEF75B838552F48AAADDBD3C34C127EBF754C6E at ADOPTK9DC1.adoptsec.local>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>
>>> Im with you on this one Dave.
>>> For many years I ran the Rover Australia Yahoo email group which I
>>> started as a way of bringing those into Rovers a bit closer together
>>> and to help those restoring Rovers to find parts or at least find
>>> where to buy parts at a reasonable price..
>>> It's the point of bringing like minded together that I now use
>>> Facebook for as ever since I've been on it I found many of my old
>>> British Army mates who I haven't spoken to in over 30 odd years..The
>>> RSR is on it aswell as many sites catering for us Rover guys.
>>>
>>> No one seems to send in email much these days so like many old ways
>>> of doing things I guess email groups will be a thing of the past..
>>>
>>> In short as Dave said..Facebook is as good or as bad as you make it
>>> and so like it or not is the future
>>> Den..
>>> BTW My dear ol Mum- god bless her- had a Facebook page set it up when
>>> she was 77 my 84 year old uncle is on it....You are as Old as you want
>>> to be..
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 18:14:55 +1000
> From: "Scott" <scott at scottsoldautorubber.com.au>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rovernet on Facebook?
> Message-ID: <20151228081459.DE78D26C71 at bne3-0003wm.server-mail.com>
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> I agree, always room for something to help people.
> Scott.
>
>
>
>> I see Facebook as a adjunct to Rovernet, not a replacement.
>> There should be plenty of room for both ..
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> South Oz
>>
>>> On 12/28/2015 5:29 PM, Bosse Arnholm via Rovernet wrote:
>>> Well,
>>> I am a retired oldie too, 67, and you will never convince to join the
>>> multibillion US company Facebook.
>>> I started th Rover Club of Sweden homepage many years ago, as well as
>>> some other web-sites.
>>> But before retiring I handed over all those sites to other people to be
>>> able to enjoy my freedom, which has made me able to make long, long
>>> timeconsuming trips in our boat as well as in our Rover cars.
>>>
>>> So what is Rovernet about?
>>> As I see it it's a meetingplace for Rover-friends. A place where you get
>>> help with everything about Rovers. Or send a message to tell everyone
>>> how you have solved some problem with your cars.
>>> What can be more easy and faster than that?
>>>
>>> Sorry, You will not see me on Facebook.
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> BosseA
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------
>>> Bosse Arnholm, S??dermalmsgatan 13, 431 69 M??lndal
>>> http://bosse.arnholm.se, http://kanaler.arnholm.nu, http://bcw.arnholm.nu
>>>
>>> 2015-12-27 18:00 skrev rovernet-request at rovernet.org:
>>>> Send Rovernet mailing list submissions to
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>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 07:32:56 +1030
>>>> From: David Read <defender110 at ozemail.com.au>
>>>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>>>> Message-ID: <567F0080.9060404 at ozemail.com.au>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> Facebook can do as much or as little as you want it to.
>>>> You just need to take the time to set the page up properly in the first
>>>> place!
>>>> This is the biggest sticking point ... it is too open/easy to set up to
>>>> cater for the dweebs that want it to run "out of the box" and don't want
>>>> to/cant be bothered to, tinker to improve security or limit access.
>>>>
>>>> Us "oldies" (I am 67) are often too set in our ways to embrace this "new
>>>> fangled stuff" :-)
>>>>
>>>> I co-administer a closed Land Rover Club Facebook group exclusively for
>>>> club members.
>>>> No noise, no chatter (apart from Land Rovers) no spam, just good info,
>>>> PLENTY OF PICS (which Rovernet does not natively support) and relevant
>>>> discussion of events, projects etc.
>>>>
>>>> YMMV
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:58:01 +0000
>>>> From: Dennis Gallacher <dennis at allk9.com.au>
>>>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>>> Subject: [Rovernet] Facebook for Rovernet
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <1AEF75B838552F48AAADDBD3C34C127EBF754C6E at ADOPTK9DC1.adoptsec.local>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Im with you on this one Dave.
>>>> For many years I ran the Rover Australia Yahoo email group which I
>>>> started as a way of bringing those into Rovers a bit closer together
>>>> and to help those restoring Rovers to find parts or at least find
>>>> where to buy parts at a reasonable price..
>>>> It's the point of bringing like minded together that I now use
>>>> Facebook for as ever since I've been on it I found many of my old
>>>> British Army mates who I haven't spoken to in over 30 odd years..The
>>>> RSR is on it aswell as many sites catering for us Rover guys.
>>>>
>>>> No one seems to send in email much these days so like many old ways
>>>> of doing things I guess email groups will be a thing of the past..
>>>>
>>>> In short as Dave said..Facebook is as good or as bad as you make it
>>>> and so like it or not is the future
>>>> Den..
>>>> BTW My dear ol Mum- god bless her- had a Facebook page set it up when
>>>> she was 77 my 84 year old uncle is on it....You are as Old as you want
>>>> to be..
>>>
>>>
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