[Rovernet] P6B manual transmission conversion parts

Wed Jun 3 10:04:07 EDT 2015

Hello again,
  Other goings on.....  I have been working really hard this spring, with
my long time employer Ted Howard's son Jeff, to go through his shop and
clean out 50 years of accumulation.  Jeff is not really a car guy, so I
have been the one that knew what everything was.  Some of you have visited
Howard's Garage in Warren, Maine when I hosted a Rover car dismantling
weekend, over 10 years ago, I think...film camera photos only survive!!
  Anyway, I recently unearthed a nice...not perfect... but better then if
they had been sitting outside for years... set of seats for a Rover 100,
105, etc.  They are suede green.  Both front seats and a back seat are
available.
   Speak fast, because as of yesterday, they are on a scrap pile.  If
anybody DOES want them and are willing to pay for shipping and for me to do
a little handling with them, I will save them.  I could possibly bring them
to the Rover weekend, but I would have to know that you wanted them!
Garrett Bourque

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 9:36 AM, garrett bourque <gbbourque at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Kent, Fletcher, Geoff, Nelson, et al,
>   Happy spring and pre RoverAmerica week!  I last made one of the Rover
> 2000 pedal boxes work on a 3500S that I do not recall the whole process.
> If the adaptor I made for Kent Kinard is not mounted in a car and is
> available for measuring, then please use it.  I made my car work the first
> time I did it, did one other complete restoration/trans conversion for
> another customer and made this adaptor/spacer/ slave cylinder mounting
> plate for Kent Kinard.
>     You do use a 2000 pedal box.  There are some left to right alignment
> issues with clearance for mounting the cylinders on the firewall.  The
> brake master needs to be moved a little bit towards the center line of the
> car in order to fit the clutch master in place and avoid hitting the air
> diaphragm on the end of the brake master cylinder on one side and the inner
> fender on the other.  The hole that the pushrods pass through needs to be
> enlarged so the pushrods have enough space to go in the direction that they
> need to, without hitting the sides of the opening, between the cylinders
> and the pedals.
>    The clutch pushrod has to be lengthened and possibly bent in order to
> make a connection between the clutch pedal and the newly located clutch
> cylinder.  This all takes some measuring, figuring and fabrication, but
> once in place, mine has held up for 20 years, so far!
>    I used 2 reservoirs, rather then finding one with 2 outlets, but that
> does not really matter.  Some clutch masters have a reservoir built right
> into them.
>     Make sure that you add a bronze bushing to the back center of the
> crankshaft.
>     Get a flywheel that has good starter ring gear teeth on it.  Get bolts
> that are the right shape to hold the flywheel on.  Add a brake light switch
> from a 70s/80s Volvo 240 on a little angle bracket in the engine
> compartment.  They are durable and easily accessible / easy to adjust for
> correct operation.
>     Some people that have driven my car complain that the brake pedal is
> too close to the gas pedal.  I never fixed it, but if it was not to your
> liking, simply heat the shaft of the brake pedal with a torch and bend it
> to a spot that gives your feet enough space, keeping the pedal pad
> vertical.
>   Parts: Get a clutch cylinder from a 2000.  Get a slave, pressure plate,
> disc, starter and transmission from a Triumph TR8 or a Rover SD1.  These
> cars used all the same stuff.  The trans is called an LT77.  You will need
> the little crossmember that goes with the trans.  It will need to be
> shortened to fit in the 3500s tunnel.  Believe it or not, your drive shaft
> from the 3500s is the right length and does not have to be changed!  You
> will likely want to cut the shift lever shorter and add a boot and knob of
> your liking.  The auto shift lever assembly can be unbolted.  The hole in
> the tunnel and center console have to be made larger in order to be in the
> correct location for the trans and allow the shift pattern to be reached.
> In this trans, first and reverse are very close together, so beware!
>    The exhaust comes very close to the starter and the header pipe on one
> side will need to be re bent, for more clearance.
>  Good luck with the conversion.
>    I will be attending the Rover weekend in Fitchburg, with my '70
> 3500S...with newly fitted Triplex glass roof, courtesy of Kent Kinard and
> shipping courtesy of a friend doing a cross country road trip!  See you
> there, Garrett Bourque
>
> On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Kent Kinard via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Geff,
>> I have spoken with Nelson about this conversion.  I guess I'll have to
>> write it all down for him.   The pedal box he needs is the garden variety
>> 2000TC/SC box.  I can supply one of those, but the master cylinder adapter
>> is only available from Garrett Bourque and he may not be willing to make
>> any more.  Garrett, where are you? I think Nelson would make his own
>> adapter if he knew what one looked like.  Right now, Greg G. has the
>> adapter Garrett made for me.  I told Nelson that we will take pictures and
>> measurements, but I feel like I need permission from Garrett since the
>> adapter is his design.  In addition to the M/C adapter which mounts both
>> clutch and brake (dual line) MC's, the pushrods must be lengthened.
>>
>> As far as I know there is only one LHD 3500S four speed in the US.  It is
>> an Italian market car imported privately and the owner is (or was) a member
>> of RCCC.  Even if the Euro 3500S had been imported in quantity, those parts
>> would not help Nelson because he is working on an NAS 3500S automatic with
>> dual line brakes.
>>
>> Rovereversengineeredly,
>> Kent K.
>>
>>
>> GeffMcCarthy via Rovernet wrote:
>>
>>> Nelson O'Reilly has trouble posting here, so :
>>>
>>> He wants to put a 5p in his P6B and needs the pedal mounting box.  I
>>> verified that no manual transmission were officially imported to NADA,
>>> even
>>> tho' some LHD were produced. Is there a box out there somewhere for him?
>>> Thanks!!
>>>
>>>
>>> AvMedSafe
>>>
>>> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>>>
>>> 677 NW Melinda Ave Portland OR USA 97210
>>>
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