[Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000

Gord Reddy gordreddy at telus.net
Thu Apr 28 10:18:53 EDT 2016


It would be awesome to have the Cinturato's on my P6 but they would be $250 
Canadian and that's a bit too much for my budget. I'm thinking Continentals 
or Vredesteins.

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From: Scruggs Family via Rovernet
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:27 PM
To: 'Rovernet'
Cc: Scruggs Family
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000

In the early '70s, shortly after acquiring my '67 2000TC, I noted what 
uneven wear on the front of the otherwise still good Pirellis.  I was 
advised this was camber wear but that nothing could be done as it was not 
adjustable.  I suffered through several pairs of front tires assuming this 
was just one of the many costs of P6 ownership.  In the late '70s I 
mentioned this situation to the legendary, and late, Ron Jones of San 
Antonio telling him the car had been checked several times and the toe spec 
was per factory.  Ron said that the factory spec was simply wrong and the 
front end should have more toe than called for.  When I pressed for a number 
he said he didn't know but offered the following solution.

Install some new or unworn tires on the front and drive the car about 40 
miles.  Then run your hands across the tread feeling for any sharpness or 
'feathers' in one direction.  If the inner edge of the tire has been wearing 
then the wheels are toeing out too much as a result of road forces and 
you'll feel a sharpness on the tread as you move your hand from outer to 
inner but not the other direction.  If you feel feathers in this direction 
then adjust the track rod for more toe in.  At the time I was driving 60 
miles each way for work and at the end of each commute I would get out, feel 
the tires, pull out the wrenches and make the appropriate adjustment.  After 
about four adjustments any noticeable wear disappeared.  I do not know what 
the toe spec is on my car but I have experienced no uneven wear problems in 
the 35 years and 100k miles since.  This alignment has worked with 165, 175, 
185 and my current 195/60 series tires.

Speaking of tires... if you're looking for the OE tire in the OE size they 
are being reproduced. 
http://www.lucasclassictires.com/Pirelli-Cinturato_c54.htm  Unfortunately 
they do not have the 'gold stripe' but are otherwise correct.  I've not 
tried this tire and can't vouch for quality or any dynamic characteristics 
but I can comment that at $200 each they had damn well better be good.

Regards,
Gross Scruggs
Annapolis MD, USA

-----Original Message-----
From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Vern 
Klukas via Rovernet
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:18 PM
To: Rovernet
Cc: Vern Klukas
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000

Oops, posted before I finished the competent remark with a wink.

Yours
Vern

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Vern Klukas via Rovernet 
> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Gord
>
> Well, they can’t be very competent
>
> Technically not adjustable, but there is a way. You have to remove the 
> glove boxes and loosen the bolts holding the top link arm to the bulkhead, 
> then insert shims under the mounts, forward of the bulkhead. Two of the b 
> lots are under the glovebox, the other two are outside the car in front of 
> the door.
>
> I’m not sure I’m describing it adequately in two sentences, I can put 
> together a better description with a couple pictures later if you want.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Gord Reddy via Rovernet 
>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>  Just had an alignment done by a very competent shop that dies quite a 
>> bit of British and they couldn’t see a way to adjust camber and nothing 
>> is mentioned in my manual. LH side is – 0.57, RH side is – 2.28. Any 
>> input?
>> Gord
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