[Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000

Thu Apr 28 10:22:02 EDT 2016

I got Vredenstein's classic sprint tyres for mine a while ago. Cheaper than
the Pirellis, modern rubber formulation with a classic style tread
pattern.  They handle nicely, have a low road noise (important with the
P6's front suspension design) and they seem to wear slowly too.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Gord Reddy via Rovernet <
rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:

> It would be awesome to have the Cinturato's on my P6 but they would be
> $250 Canadian and that's a bit too much for my budget. I'm thinking
> Continentals or Vredesteins.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Scruggs Family via Rovernet
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 1:27 PM
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> Cc: Scruggs Family
>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000
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> In the early '70s, shortly after acquiring my '67 2000TC, I noted what
> uneven wear on the front of the otherwise still good Pirellis.  I was
> advised this was camber wear but that nothing could be done as it was not
> adjustable.  I suffered through several pairs of front tires assuming this
> was just one of the many costs of P6 ownership.  In the late '70s I
> mentioned this situation to the legendary, and late, Ron Jones of San
> Antonio telling him the car had been checked several times and the toe spec
> was per factory.  Ron said that the factory spec was simply wrong and the
> front end should have more toe than called for.  When I pressed for a
> number he said he didn't know but offered the following solution.
>
> Install some new or unworn tires on the front and drive the car about 40
> miles.  Then run your hands across the tread feeling for any sharpness or
> 'feathers' in one direction.  If the inner edge of the tire has been
> wearing then the wheels are toeing out too much as a result of road forces
> and you'll feel a sharpness on the tread as you move your hand from outer
> to inner but not the other direction.  If you feel feathers in this
> direction then adjust the track rod for more toe in.  At the time I was
> driving 60 miles each way for work and at the end of each commute I would
> get out, feel the tires, pull out the wrenches and make the appropriate
> adjustment.  After about four adjustments any noticeable wear disappeared.
> I do not know what the toe spec is on my car but I have experienced no
> uneven wear problems in the 35 years and 100k miles since.  This alignment
> has worked with 165, 175, 185 and my current 195/60 series tires.
>
> Speaking of tires... if you're looking for the OE tire in the OE size they
> are being reproduced.
> http://www.lucasclassictires.com/Pirelli-Cinturato_c54.htm  Unfortunately
> they do not have the 'gold stripe' but are otherwise correct.  I've not
> tried this tire and can't vouch for quality or any dynamic characteristics
> but I can comment that at $200 each they had damn well better be good.
>
> Regards,
> Gross Scruggs
> Annapolis MD, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org] On Behalf Of Vern
> Klukas via Rovernet
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 3:18 PM
> To: Rovernet
> Cc: Vern Klukas
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1967 P6 TC2000
>
> Oops, posted before I finished the competent remark with a wink.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> On Apr 27, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Vern Klukas via Rovernet <
>> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>> Hi Gord
>>
>> Well, they can’t be very competent
>>
>> Technically not adjustable, but there is a way. You have to remove the
>> glove boxes and loosen the bolts holding the top link arm to the bulkhead,
>> then insert shims under the mounts, forward of the bulkhead. Two of the b
>> lots are under the glovebox, the other two are outside the car in front of
>> the door.
>>
>> I’m not sure I’m describing it adequately in two sentences, I can put
>> together a better description with a couple pictures later if you want.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:57 AM, Gord Reddy via Rovernet <
>>> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>>> Hi All,
>>>  Just had an alignment done by a very competent shop that dies quite a
>>> bit of British and they couldn’t see a way to adjust camber and nothing is
>>> mentioned in my manual. LH side is – 0.57, RH side is – 2.28. Any input?
>>> Gord
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