[Rovernet] new dual circuit master cylinder

Roy Babiuk rababiuk at telusplanet.net
Sun Jan 8 15:41:41 EST 2017 

Also take a look at powertrackbrakes.co.uk
Roy

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> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap. 
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> From: Geoff <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
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> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap. 
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>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 16:06, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>> Bill, this was very helpful, and I went ahead and ordered a new Jag brake master cylinder to replace the original Rover.
>> 
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>> Thanks again,   Lance
>> 
>> 
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>> 
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>> Hi Lance,
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>> The Rover part is hard, if not impossible, to find.  But it may be
>> replaced with the m/cyl for a Jaguar 420 / V-12 E-type, TRW No. C26767
>> L007C, which is the same except for the bore of the little air control
>> valve -- 5/16 instead of 3/8, if I recall correctly.  Makes no
>> difference in practice, just good to know if you're buying a rebuild kit.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Bill Daddis
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>>> On 04-Jan-17 5:50 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet wrote:
>>> Trying to find a source for a new brake master cylinder,   1970 3500S   NADA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lance
>>> 
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>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>> 
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> From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Resource help [Federal 3500S master cylinder]
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> For most brake cylinders I would recommend having the bore sleeved and 
> rebuilding with new seals, but there are a few issues with that approach 
> to this master cylinder, and currently new Jaguar cylinders are 
> available at a reasonable price.
> 
> Two different master cylinders that I had sleeved and rebuilt both 
> started to leak within one to two years after the rebuild. The first one 
> had the cylinder bore and the small air valve piston bore sleeved and it 
> was assembled with new seals.  The second one was rebuilt in England 
> through a friend there, and not only the bores were sleeved, but also 
> the O.D. of the piston -- the seal against this surface is supposed to 
> keep fluid in the cylinder.  I thought it should be better than new, but 
> it too leaked somewhat after one year and six months later the leak was 
> draining the reservoir in a few days.
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> Last fall I was researching this issue and found this new Jaguar master 
> cylinder for $200: 
> http://www.welshent.com/product_info.php?sku=C26767    What caught my 
> attention with this one was the claim that "These master cylinders have 
> seals more dependable than those currently on the market."  The photo on 
> the web page shows a cylinder with "Lucas" cast on the body, but the one 
> I received has Lockheed labeling. Time will tell, but I installed the 
> cylinder and initially there are no leaks.  I asked the vendor if their 
> new seal kits had the same "more dependable" seals as the new cylinder; 
> they thought they did and I ordered some.  I am skeptical of the 
> separate seal kits, because the rubber boot on the new cylinder has 
> Lockheed labeling and numbers cast onto it, whereas the kit seals are in 
> generic looking packaging and the rubber parts lack the Lockheed labels 
> and numbers.
> 
> On the older of my two failed master cylinders, the rubber boot had 
> become hard as a rock.  The boot on the more recent rebuild seemed to be 
> partially hardened too.  It appears that many of the available seal kits 
> are poor quality.  Does anyone know of a source of OEM Lockheed seal 
> kits or other seals that are known to last?
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> I have given both my rebuilt cylinders to a rebuilder to disect, and 
> asked them to research better seals too.
> 
> --Steve
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>> On 1/8/2017 4:25 AM, Geoff via Rovernet wrote:
>> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 16:06, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill, this was very helpful, and I went ahead and ordered a new Jag brake master cylinder to replace the original Rover.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,   Lance
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>> 
>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>> 
>>> [Get this quote on a t-shirt!]<http://www.zazzle.com/api/create/at-238192362736820030?rf=238192362736820030&ax=DesignBlast&sr=250851256328789740&cg=0&ed=true&eds=Inline&ds=true&fwd=ProductPage&tc=795&ic=&quote=The+quickest+way+to+a+man%27s+heart+is+not+through+the+stomach+but+through+his+chest%2c+with+an+axe.&source=&continueUrl=http%3a%2f%2fcoolquotescollection.com%2f795%2fthe-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his&rut=Back+to+Cool+Quotes+Collection>t-shirt<http://www.zazzle.com/api/create/at-238192362736820030?rf=238192362736820030&ax=DesignBlast&sr=250851256328789740&cg=0&ed=true&eds=Inline&ds=true&fwd=ProductPage&tc=795&ic=&quote=The+quickest+way+to+a+man%27s+heart+is+not+through+the+stomach+but+through+his+chest%2c+with+an+axe.&source=&continueUrl=http%3a%2f%2fcoolquotescollection.com%2f795%2fthe-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his&rut=Back+to+Cool+Quotes+Collection>
>>> [See comments and details]<http://coolquotescollection.com/795/the-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his>talk<http://coolquotescollection.com/795/the-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his>
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>>> From: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> on behalf of magnet--- via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:20 PM
>>> To: Rovernet
>>> Cc: magnet at ican.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Resource help
>>> 
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> 
>>> The Rover part is hard, if not impossible, to find.  But it may be
>>> replaced with the m/cyl for a Jaguar 420 / V-12 E-type, TRW No. C26767
>>> L007C, which is the same except for the bore of the little air control
>>> valve -- 5/16 instead of 3/8, if I recall correctly.  Makes no
>>> difference in practice, just good to know if you're buying a rebuild kit.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Bill Daddis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 04-Jan-17 5:50 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet wrote:
>>>> Trying to find a source for a new brake master cylinder,   1970 3500S   NADA.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lance
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>>> 
>>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>>> 
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