[Rovernet] Resource help

Roy Babiuk rababiuk at telusplanet.net
Sun Jan 8 15:25:36 EST 2017 

Hi Lance.
Wins international is advertising new tandem circuit master cylinders on their website. 
Couldn't hurt to email Geoff and ensure he has what you need.
Email is winsintltd at sky.com
Roy

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> From: Geoff <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
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> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap. 
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> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 01:25:43 -0800
> From: Geoff <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
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> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap. 
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>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 16:06, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>> Bill, this was very helpful, and I went ahead and ordered a new Jag brake master cylinder to replace the original Rover.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks again,   Lance
>> 
>> 
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
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>> Hi Lance,
>> 
>> The Rover part is hard, if not impossible, to find.  But it may be
>> replaced with the m/cyl for a Jaguar 420 / V-12 E-type, TRW No. C26767
>> L007C, which is the same except for the bore of the little air control
>> valve -- 5/16 instead of 3/8, if I recall correctly.  Makes no
>> difference in practice, just good to know if you're buying a rebuild kit.
>> 
>> Hope this helps,
>> 
>> Bill Daddis
>> 
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>>> On 04-Jan-17 5:50 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet wrote:
>>> Trying to find a source for a new brake master cylinder,   1970 3500S   NADA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lance
>>> 
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>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>> 
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> From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Resource help [Federal 3500S master cylinder]
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> For most brake cylinders I would recommend having the bore sleeved and 
> rebuilding with new seals, but there are a few issues with that approach 
> to this master cylinder, and currently new Jaguar cylinders are 
> available at a reasonable price.
> 
> Two different master cylinders that I had sleeved and rebuilt both 
> started to leak within one to two years after the rebuild. The first one 
> had the cylinder bore and the small air valve piston bore sleeved and it 
> was assembled with new seals.  The second one was rebuilt in England 
> through a friend there, and not only the bores were sleeved, but also 
> the O.D. of the piston -- the seal against this surface is supposed to 
> keep fluid in the cylinder.  I thought it should be better than new, but 
> it too leaked somewhat after one year and six months later the leak was 
> draining the reservoir in a few days.
> 
> Last fall I was researching this issue and found this new Jaguar master 
> cylinder for $200: 
> http://www.welshent.com/product_info.php?sku=C26767    What caught my 
> attention with this one was the claim that "These master cylinders have 
> seals more dependable than those currently on the market."  The photo on 
> the web page shows a cylinder with "Lucas" cast on the body, but the one 
> I received has Lockheed labeling. Time will tell, but I installed the 
> cylinder and initially there are no leaks.  I asked the vendor if their 
> new seal kits had the same "more dependable" seals as the new cylinder; 
> they thought they did and I ordered some.  I am skeptical of the 
> separate seal kits, because the rubber boot on the new cylinder has 
> Lockheed labeling and numbers cast onto it, whereas the kit seals are in 
> generic looking packaging and the rubber parts lack the Lockheed labels 
> and numbers.
> 
> On the older of my two failed master cylinders, the rubber boot had 
> become hard as a rock.  The boot on the more recent rebuild seemed to be 
> partially hardened too.  It appears that many of the available seal kits 
> are poor quality.  Does anyone know of a source of OEM Lockheed seal 
> kits or other seals that are known to last?
> 
> I have given both my rebuilt cylinders to a rebuilder to disect, and 
> asked them to research better seals too.
> 
> --Steve
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>> On 1/8/2017 4:25 AM, Geoff via Rovernet wrote:
>> Both White Post and San Jose Power Brake have lots of parts and could probably build one. Won't be cheap.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 6, 2017, at 16:06, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill, this was very helpful, and I went ahead and ordered a new Jag brake master cylinder to replace the original Rover.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,   Lance
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>> 
>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>> 
>>> [Get this quote on a t-shirt!]<http://www.zazzle.com/api/create/at-238192362736820030?rf=238192362736820030&ax=DesignBlast&sr=250851256328789740&cg=0&ed=true&eds=Inline&ds=true&fwd=ProductPage&tc=795&ic=&quote=The+quickest+way+to+a+man%27s+heart+is+not+through+the+stomach+but+through+his+chest%2c+with+an+axe.&source=&continueUrl=http%3a%2f%2fcoolquotescollection.com%2f795%2fthe-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his&rut=Back+to+Cool+Quotes+Collection>t-shirt<http://www.zazzle.com/api/create/at-238192362736820030?rf=238192362736820030&ax=DesignBlast&sr=250851256328789740&cg=0&ed=true&eds=Inline&ds=true&fwd=ProductPage&tc=795&ic=&quote=The+quickest+way+to+a+man%27s+heart+is+not+through+the+stomach+but+through+his+chest%2c+with+an+axe.&source=&continueUrl=http%3a%2f%2fcoolquotescollection.com%2f795%2fthe-quickest-way-to-a-man-s-heart-is-not-through-the-stomach-but-through-his&rut=Back+to+Cool+Quotes+Collection>
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>>> From: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> on behalf of magnet--- via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2017 4:20 PM
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>>> Cc: magnet at ican.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Resource help
>>> 
>>> Hi Lance,
>>> 
>>> The Rover part is hard, if not impossible, to find.  But it may be
>>> replaced with the m/cyl for a Jaguar 420 / V-12 E-type, TRW No. C26767
>>> L007C, which is the same except for the bore of the little air control
>>> valve -- 5/16 instead of 3/8, if I recall correctly.  Makes no
>>> difference in practice, just good to know if you're buying a rebuild kit.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> 
>>> Bill Daddis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 04-Jan-17 5:50 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet wrote:
>>>> Trying to find a source for a new brake master cylinder,   1970 3500S   NADA.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lance
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
>>>> 
>>>> I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
>>>> 
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