[Rovernet] speedo is nervous
magnet at ican.net
magnet at ican.net
Tue Aug 19 13:48:46 EDT 2025
Hi Larry,
Speedo issues almost always come down to lubrication, or to be more
precise the lack of it.
As has been pointed out, the lube in the cable, and if present, in the
right-angle drive behind the speedo head, dries out and gets gummy.
Anything that resists the even turning of the cable, especially up near
the head, can cause jitter, as the cable "winds up" and then "lets go"
once it overcomes the resistance. On the "let go" phase, the cable
momentarily gives a little surge, resulting in a spike in the speedo
reading.
But a more insidious problem inside the speedo head itself often causes
this surging, and lubricating the cable alone will not eliminate it.
Smiths (aka British Jaeger) speedometers use a little pawl-and-ratchet
arrangement to drive the mileage counter. A worm on the speedo input
shaft turns a pinion gear, and this gear moves a pawl back and forth
every time it goes around. The pawl, in turn, pushes a toothed wheel
around a few degrees on each stroke, and this wheel is coupled to the
tenths-of-a-mile dial of the mileage counter.
Now what happens when the lubricant of the pawl and the toothed wheel it
drives dries out?
The wheel gets harder for the pawl to turn. The pawl thus has to work
harder on the forward stroke as it turns the wheel. This causes a
heavier load on the speedo cable, which winds up a bit. But the pawl's
return stroke is easier, and the cable unwinds, giving a flip to the
speedo needle. Depending on your speed, this oscillation takes place a
couple of times each second or faster, resulting in a small but
noticeable jitter in the speedo needle. At some speed, this jitter
coincides with the resonant frequency of the needle and hairspring
assembly and you get a really big swing on the needle.
But wait, it gets even more interesting! Every time the tenths dial
goes through a revolution, it moves the mile wheel forward by 1. So the
pawl has to work even harder to turn two dials, wnding up the cable even
more, and causing a bigger flip when it relaxes. So once every mile,
you'll get a bigger swing of the needle. And every ten miles, an even
bigger swing, etc.
Lubricating the pawl is easy, once you have opened up the speedo head,
and greasing the pinion wheel shaft is pretty straightforward too. In
my case, binding of this shaft was the main culprit. Just as well, as
lubrication of the six-wheel dial assembly would have involved more
disassembly than I was prepared to undertake.
Cheers,
-- Bill Daddis
On 19-Aug-2025 8:31 a.m., larry williamson via Rovernet wrote:
> My speedo is steady sometimes and sometimes jumps around. What is the
> reason and how to fix? I can't seem to find out in the classic forum
> these notes. Larry
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