<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Good to know, thanks Michael.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yours</div><div class="">Vern</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 27, 2016, at 6:36 PM, Coombs, Michael MR via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" class="">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">UNOFFICIAL<br class=""><br class="">UNOFFICIAL<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Barry and Vern,<br class="">There was a major change in the Crown wheel mounting bolts from Diff<br class="">number Suffix D onwards Essentially the later ones have 12 x 3/8 UNF<br class="">bolts the early have two fitted bolts and 10 standard, loose fit in<br class="">wheel, 5/16 UNF bolts. Both require Thread locking compound and high<br class="">tensile washers of the correct thickness. Obviously this is also<br class="">important if you are buying a new gear set as the thread is in the crown<br class="">wheel.<br class="">Michael<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">----------------<br class="">Mr Michael Coombs<br class="">Headquarters Branch <br class=""><br class="">HQ FORCOMD<br class="">Victoria Barracks<br class="">PADDINGTON NSW 2021<br class="">Tel: 612 8335 5058<br class="">Fax: 612 8335 6648<br class="">Email: <a href="mailto:michael.coombs@defence.gov.au" class="">michael.coombs@defence.gov.au</a> <br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://intranet.defence.gov.au/armyweb/Sites/ForcesComd/comweb.asp?page=" class="">http://intranet.defence.gov.au/armyweb/Sites/ForcesComd/comweb.asp?page=</a><br class="">201735&Title=Home <br class=""><br class="">------------------------------------------------------------------------<br class="">---------------- <br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Rovernet [mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org] On Behalf Of<br class="">rovernet-request@rovernet.org<br class="">Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:00<br class="">To: rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">Subject: Rovernet Digest, Vol 35, Issue 7<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br class=""><br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class="">  1. Re: play in 3500s differential (Barry Lafbery)<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">----------------------------------------------------------------------<br class=""><br class="">Message: 1<br class="">Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 08:29:08 -0700<br class="">From: Barry Lafbery <lafbery@shaw.ca><br class="">To: Rovernet <rovernet@rovernet.org><br class="">Subject: Re: [Rovernet] play in 3500s differential<br class="">Message-ID: <0CAB4FE5-FC89-4604-8DFD-E193FC20C30C@shaw.ca><br class="">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">I seem to remember it was clunk as i pulled away, when it finally broke<br class="">the case it stopped the car I was only a few blocks from home and had a<br class="">hell of a job getting it home as it did not want to move. it had split<br class="">the casing about 6 inches long.<br class=""><br class="">Barry <br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">I?ve had Barry?s experience except in a 4cyl car. I wasn?t driving it,<br class=""></blockquote>but the person who was said she did vaguely hear a ?tick, tick, tick?<br class="">from the back. The amazing thing was she probably drove the car 500<br class="">miles before I found the hole. The piece that had come out was fairly<br class="">high, so some oil was retained and I guess it was just enough.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Yours<br class="">Vern<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 27, 2016, at 7:25 AM, peter king via Rovernet<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote><rovernet@rovernet.org> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Thank you, Barry. It sounds like you would have heard a repeated<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote>sound or grinding as the bolt was coming in contact with the casing. Was<br class="">that the case, or did it just clunk when you put it in gear?<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:35 PM, Barry Lafbery via Rovernet<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><rovernet@rovernet.org> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">if it?s any help, the clunk i had in my last 3500s turned out to be<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>a loose crown wheel i did not catch it in time and it broke the casing.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">including mine i have heard of 3 3500s with the crown wheel coming<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>loose. One bolt only has to undo 1/2 a turn and they hit the casing if<br class="">you keep driving it breaks the casing. It?s really worth checking. When<br class="">i repaired it i drilled the bolt heads wired the bolts and also used<br class="">loktite on the threads.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Barry<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class="">Peter, since I just completed the exact job you're undertaking, I<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>can 2nd Vern's response that the 'play' you have is acceptable.  I had a<br class="">really bad 'clunk' but it was only at slow speeds, usually when the car<br class="">was coming to a stop.  Turned out it indeed was a bad u-joint.   The bad<br class="">news; the other 'clunk' from engaging the transmission never went away.<br class="">I remember we've had this conversation several times on Rovernet, and<br class="">apparently that clunk is almost a badge of honor with that atrocious<br class="">BW35.  I've never been able to eliminate it, even after having the<br class="">tranny completely rebuilt and then replacing all of the u-joints along<br class="">the entire drive line.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Best wishes,   Lance<br class=""><br class="">Lance La Certe, Psy.D.<br class="">Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book.  Inside of a<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>dog it's too dark to read.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 21:31:43 -0400<br class="">To: rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">Subject: [Rovernet] play in 3500s differential<br class="">From: rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">CC: peter@king-co.com<br class=""><br class="">Hi all,<br class=""><br class="">I?m in the middle of replacing half shaft u-joints in the 3500s,<br class=""></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>and replacing seals and gaiter on the Dedion tube, and I noticed that<br class="">there is a lot of free play in the differential when I rotate the road<br class="">wheel back and forth. A ?blank space? before engaging. How much play is<br class="">normal, and what?s the best way to measure this? I made a set of marks<br class="">on the outer edge of the brake disc, and measured 3/4? of ?blank space?<br class="">when I move the wheel back and forth. I have no idea if that?s a<br class="">meaningful measurement, but it?s a place to start the conversation.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">Any thoughts on this?<br class=""><br class="">thanks,<br class=""><br class="">Peter<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was <br class="">scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <br class=""><http://rovernet.org/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.org/attachments/2<br class="">0160425/82fc44ff/attachment.html> <br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Rovernet mailing list<br class="">Rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org<br class=""></blockquote><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span> <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">      </span>   <span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>  <br class="">-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was <br class="">scrubbed...<br class="">URL: <br class=""><http://rovernet.org/pipermail/rovernet_rovernet.org/attachments/20<br class="">160426/0088cbdb/attachment.html><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Rovernet mailing list<br class="">Rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Rovernet mailing list<br class="">Rovernet@rovernet.org<br class="">http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br clas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