<div dir="ltr">From what I'm reading you could easily have either a bad master, or slave cylinder, or both. If it were my car I would do them first and determine how well the clutch works after that.....AND if either of them is difficult to change that you put in new, Genuine ones. Kitting a 50-year-old cylinder can be a very long shot and the money you save going that route might be an excellent idea if your time is worth about $1.00 an hour.<div><br></div><div>My 2 cents worth. I work on Rovers every day and have for almost 50 years.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Charles Kellogg<div>Director of Restorations<br><div>Dare Britannia, Ltd.</div><div>Olympia, WA 98512, USA</div><div><a href="http://www.darebritannia.com/" target="_blank">http://www.darebritannia.com/</a></div><div><br></div><div>Voice 360-866-2254</div><div>Fax 360-866-6970</div></div><div>Cell 360-789-5070</div><div><br></div><div><img src="http://darebritanniarestorations.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/dare-britannia-logo.jpg?w=625" alt="New Logo" width="420" height="235"><br></div>
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1. Re: 1969 P6 2000TC (Gianni D'Ortenzio)<br>
2. Re: 1969 P6 2000TC (carlin freeberg)<br>
3. Re: 1969 P6 2000TC (TrinLando08)<br>
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 08:26:46 +1000<br>
From: Gianni D'Ortenzio <<a href="mailto:giannid@bigpond.com">giannid@bigpond.com</a>><br>
To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1969 P6 2000TC<br>
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Last time I did a clutch in a P6 was about forty years ago in dad?s garage (2000 SC, my first Rover).<br>
Horridly difficult with minimal tools and car ramps.<br>
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This time I thought, ?older, wiser and more cashed up?.. get someone else to do it?.<br>
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Quote was more than price of hoist, so?..<br>
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Maybe it is an Australian thing, ?cause like Roger, I thought it an opportunity to do the many maintenance items.<br>
Lot of oil leaks to fix and reco starter motor fix dodgy wiring, replace original hard plastic clutch line, etc, etc etc (apologies to Yul Brynner).<br>
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Gear change like new after rebuilding all the rubber mounts around the gear lever. Made my own and used excellent drawings in parts manual to guesstimate sizes.<br>
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Love my hoist!<br>
Bit like getting the twin cab utility, made me lots of new friends!<br>
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>> Cheers Gianni<br>
>> 1948 P3 6 Light<br>
>> 1961 Landrover Series II<br>
>> 1968 2000 TC<br>
>> 1974 Lotus Elite 501<br>
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Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2018 00:03:15 +0000<br>
From: carlin freeberg <<a href="mailto:cfreeberg@hotmail.com">cfreeberg@hotmail.com</a>><br>
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Chipping in with my 2000TC experience: The Rover master and slave cyl's are fragile and the rubber inside the cyl's deteriorates. A rebuild kit would be worth the try - - - inexpensive and easy. If that doesn't solve the problem(s), then new units are available - - - those units are widely used and should be available new. Simple replacement procedure. If no "new" replacement done within a dozen years or so, then that should be a gratifying option.<br>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1969 P6 2000TC<br>
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Sean,<br>
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What is the problem with the clutch? I'm just wondering if it<br>
definitely needs a new disk and pressure plate, or if it could be a<br>
problem with the clutch slave or master cylinder.<br>
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I agree with others that you need to find out if it needs the earlier or<br>
later clutch based on engine and gearbox serial numbers. Cars in the US<br>
registered in 1969 could be 1968 model year depending on the<br>
distribution and sales cycle.<br>
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Steve<br>
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On 4/20/2018 9:08 PM, TrinLando08 via Rovernet wrote:<br>
> Hello Gentlemen. I'm in need of a complete clutch kit for my 69 2000TC.<br>
> I've tried online sites and they want me to pull apart and take pictures<br>
> before ordering. I live in Florida USA and I can't have the car immobile<br>
> and slung up for that much time. Is it that difficult to obtain a complete<br>
> clutch pack?<br>
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> Warmest regards<br>
> Sean Farnum<br>
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Oh wow I am truly grateful for all the responses, suggestions and advice.<br>
Okay so here goes with answers. I know the disc and pressure plate are bad<br>
as I can start the car in any gear. I can feel the selector going thru the<br>
gears. The car is still together and is not apart or on a lift. I am not<br>
sure about pedal to master to slave operation and will make observations<br>
when the car is up off of the ground. I am going to pull engine and box<br>
together. The car has oil leaks and I can address those and the cooling<br>
system as I will have proper access to all areas.<br>
I have decided to not rush and take time to do as much as I can in one<br>
shot. I have restored and brought many cars back to life over the years, so<br>
I can hold my own. I will keep you all updated as I embark on the journey.<br>
I am also an upholsterer with over 30 years experience so the interior will<br>
be getting a lot of attention also.<br>
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On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 8:03 PM, carlin freeberg via Rovernet <<br>
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> Chipping in with my 2000TC experience: The Rover master and slave cyl's<br>
> are fragile and the rubber inside the cyl's deteriorates. A rebuild kit<br>
> would be worth the try - - - inexpensive and easy. If that doesn't solve<br>
> the problem(s), then new units are available - - - those units are widely<br>
> used and should be available new. Simple replacement procedure. If no<br>
> "new" replacement done within a dozen years or so, then that should be a<br>
> gratifying option.<br>
><br>
><br>
> ______________________________<wbr>__________<br>
> From: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a><wbr>> on behalf of Steve Manwell<br>
> via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 6:38 AM<br>
> To: TrinLando08 via Rovernet<br>
> Cc: Steve Manwell<br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] 1969 P6 2000TC<br>
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> Sean,<br>
><br>
> What is the problem with the clutch? I'm just wondering if it<br>
> definitely needs a new disk and pressure plate, or if it could be a<br>
> problem with the clutch slave or master cylinder.<br>
><br>
> I agree with others that you need to find out if it needs the earlier or<br>
> later clutch based on engine and gearbox serial numbers. Cars in the US<br>
> registered in 1969 could be 1968 model year depending on the<br>
> distribution and sales cycle.<br>
><br>
> Steve<br>
><br>
><br>
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> On 4/20/2018 9:08 PM, TrinLando08 via Rovernet wrote:<br>
> > Hello Gentlemen. I'm in need of a complete clutch kit for my 69 2000TC.<br>
> > I've tried online sites and they want me to pull apart and take pictures<br>
> > before ordering. I live in Florida USA and I can't have the car immobile<br>
> > and slung up for that much time. Is it that difficult to obtain a<br>
> complete<br>
> > clutch pack?<br>
> ><br>
> > Warmest regards<br>
> > Sean Farnum<br>
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