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Thanks to all for the advice regarding the heater core. If worst comes to worst and the core is completely shot, any thoughts about whether a traditional engine radiator shop can re-core it, or how I would go about sourcing a replacement (I've never seen anything
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Rovernet <rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org> on behalf of Gord Reddy via Rovernet <rovernet@rovernet.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, June 9, 2019 5:40 PM<br>
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<div class="PlainText">I might as well tackle mine as well, disassemble and rebuild.<br>
Thank you Charles<br>
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From: Kellogg, Charles via Rovernet<br>
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 4:27 PM<br>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 73, Issue 4<br>
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Also.....the heater core was originally sealed against the sides of the<br>
cabinet/housing....which (foam) sealant has probably crumbled to dust long<br>
since. The remedy: remove the heater , disassemble cabinet and replace with<br>
1-or-2-sided foam tape of appropriate dimensions. Also the cabinet itself<br>
may be leaking at its seams, best sealed with black sticky 3M product, I<br>
believe it was we just used days ago. (Welcome to call for product name)<br>
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A better blower motor, if the core isn't making adequate heat, will only<br>
blow more cool air your way, not the desired effect.<br>
<br>
Shooting a non-contact pyrometer at (or feeling with the hands) the supply<br>
and discharge hoses (engine hot) will also tell its own story.<br>
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> From: LANCE LA CERTE PSY D <lacpsyd6@msn.com><br>
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> I'm finally going to dive into the decades of pathetic heating in my P6B<br>
> (1970). Would appreciate any and all ideas of diagnosing and solutions.<br>
><br>
> Background: my heater has been anemic for 30 years; yet I have a friend<br>
> with a 3500S whose heater is hotter than hades.<br>
> I completely rebuilt my engine with correct thermostat. All hoses were<br>
> replaced, and the radiator re-cored (but the heat was just as anemic <br>
> before<br>
> it was re-cored).<br>
><br>
> The blower fan has always seemed just as anemic as the<br>
> heat---sooooooooooo, could it really be that if I rebuilt/replaced the<br>
> blower fan that I would suddenly have adequate heat?<br>
><br>
> The only other important piece of information I can think of, is that<br>
> during the engine rebuild, I never had the small heater core pressure<br>
> tested (that being said, when I had the engine radiator re-cored there was<br>
> no indication of any blockage after years of use-----the re-coring was <br>
> done<br>
> to successfully decrease engine operating temperature)<br>
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> Thanks in advance for any help<br>
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> Lance<br>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Mea Rover's frigus, frigus cor meum<br>
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> Lance,<br>
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> It sounds like you flushed the radiator, but not the heater core. I don?t<br>
> know if you have ready access to the inlet and outlet of the heater core <br>
> in<br>
> that car, but on other Brits I have found it helpful to attach a hose to<br>
> the inlet, and direct it to a bucket, then connect a garden hose to the<br>
> outlet, and flush the heater core backwards.<br>
><br>
> You will likely get lots of rust and mess. Then, reverse the flow and<br>
> repeat. Continue reversing and repeating until clean water comes out. <br>
> It?ll<br>
> probably only take a a few tries.<br>
><br>
> If the core comes out easily, which I don?t think it does, just remove it,<br>
> which will allow you to shake it with water in it and perhaps get a little<br>
> more out.<br>
><br>
> This may not solve your problem, but it?s certainly worth the effort.<br>
><br>
> Tom<br>
><br>
> > On Jun 8, 2019, at 12:39 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <<br>
> rovernet@rovernet.org> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > I'm finally going to dive into the decades of pathetic heating in my<br>
> P6B (1970). Would appreciate any and all ideas of diagnosing and<br>
> solutions.<br>
> ><br>
> > Background: my heater has been anemic for 30 years; yet I have a friend<br>
> with a 3500S whose heater is hotter than hades.<br>
> > I completely rebuilt my engine with correct thermostat. All hoses were<br>
> replaced, and the radiator re-cored (but the heat was just as anemic <br>
> before<br>
> it was re-cored).<br>
> ><br>
> > The blower fan has always seemed just as anemic as the<br>
> heat---sooooooooooo, could it really be that if I rebuilt/replaced the<br>
> blower fan that I would suddenly have adequate heat?<br>
> ><br>
> > The only other important piece of information I can think of, is that<br>
> during the engine rebuild, I never had the small heater core pressure<br>
> tested (that being said, when I had the engine radiator re-cored there was<br>
> no indication of any blockage after years of use-----the re-coring was <br>
> done<br>
> to successfully decrease engine operating temperature)<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks in advance for any help<br>
> ><br>
> > Lance<br>
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> To: Rovernet <rovernet@rovernet.org><br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Mea Rover's frigus, frigus cor meum<br>
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> Problem is the Rover heater matrix has allows water to bypass a blockage<br>
> via tanks on the side. Flushing doesn?t work so well on those. You can try<br>
> one of the chemical peeps out there to dissolve buildup in the matrix but<br>
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> > On Jun 8, 2019, at 12:48, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <rovernet@rovernet.org><br>
> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Lance,<br>
> ><br>
> > It sounds like you flushed the radiator, but not the heater core. I<br>
> don?t know if you have ready access to the inlet and outlet of the heater<br>
> core in that car, but on other Brits I have found it helpful to attach a<br>
> hose to the inlet, and direct it to a bucket, then connect a garden hose <br>
> to<br>
> the outlet, and flush the heater core backwards.<br>
> ><br>
> > You will likely get lots of rust and mess. Then, reverse the flow and<br>
> repeat. Continue reversing and repeating until clean water comes out. <br>
> It?ll<br>
> probably only take a a few tries.<br>
> ><br>
> > If the core comes out easily, which I don?t think it does, just remove<br>
> it, which will allow you to shake it with water in it and perhaps get a<br>
> little more out.<br>
> ><br>
> > This may not solve your problem, but it?s certainly worth the effort.<br>
> ><br>
> > Tom<br>
> ><br>
> >> On Jun 8, 2019, at 12:39 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <<br>
> rovernet@rovernet.org> wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >> I'm finally going to dive into the decades of pathetic heating in my<br>
> P6B (1970). Would appreciate any and all ideas of diagnosing and<br>
> solutions.<br>
> >><br>
> >> Background: my heater has been anemic for 30 years; yet I have a friend<br>
> with a 3500S whose heater is hotter than hades.<br>
> >> I completely rebuilt my engine with correct thermostat. All hoses<br>
> were replaced, and the radiator re-cored (but the heat was just as anemic<br>
> before it was re-cored).<br>
> >><br>
> >> The blower fan has always seemed just as anemic as the<br>
> heat---sooooooooooo, could it really be that if I rebuilt/replaced the<br>
> blower fan that I would suddenly have adequate heat?<br>
> >><br>
> >> The only other important piece of information I can think of, is that<br>
> during the engine rebuild, I never had the small heater core pressure<br>
> tested (that being said, when I had the engine radiator re-cored there was<br>
> no indication of any blockage after years of use-----the re-coring was <br>
> done<br>
> to successfully decrease engine operating temperature)<br>
> >><br>
> >> Thanks in advance for any help<br>
> >><br>
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