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From: "Kellogg, Charles" <<a href="mailto:charlesk@darebritannia.com" target="_blank">charlesk@darebritannia.com</a>><br>
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Lance: 1 possibility is that U could use SUPERGLUE and repair the cracks<br>
themselves [after removing ANY & ALL grease, etc] SUPERGLUE actually works<br>
extremely well on rubber components but it MUST B fresh!!! NOT old<br>
stuff!! It only lasts a short while B4 going stale & not working. Not the<br>
purist's solution but a great hack. We use SUPERGLUE on rubber here @ the<br>
shop frequently. GREAT STUFF!!<br>
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> 1. de Dion gaiter replacement question (Lance La Certe)<br>
> 2. Re: de Dion gaiter replacement question (garrett bourque)<br>
> 3. Re: de Dion gaiter replacement question (Vern Inkspot)<br>
> 4. Re: de Dion gaiter replacement question (Lance La Certe)<br>
> 5. Re: de Dion gaiter replacement question (Lance La Certe)<br>
> 6. And now.......nuts to you (Lance La Certe)<br>
> 7. Re: And now.......nuts to you (Vern Inkspot)<br>
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> Message: 1<br>
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 21:09:35 +0000<br>
> From: Lance La Certe <<a href="mailto:lacpsyd6@msn.com" target="_blank">lacpsyd6@msn.com</a>><br>
> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Subject: [Rovernet] de Dion gaiter replacement question<br>
> Message-ID:<br>
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> <a href="mailto:CY1PR04MB2345D82FC6B418AB73CA0D10835B9@CY1PR04MB2345.namprd04.prod.outlook.com" target="_blank">CY1PR04MB2345D82FC6B418AB73CA0D10835B9@CY1PR04MB2345.namprd04.prod.outlook.com</a><br>
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> Several years ago I serviced the entire de Dion unit, installing new<br>
> seals, as well as a new, aftermarket gaiter. Unfortunately, even with<br>
> very little mileage, the cheap reproduction has begun to fail (the rubber<br>
> folds are beginning to crack, not due to any extreme mechanical force). I<br>
> recently acquired an excellent, NOS, OEM gaiter for replacement.<br>
><br>
> Here's the question. Is there any reason why, with the driver's side de<br>
> Dion elbow and center tube supported, that I can't just remove the<br>
> passenger side half-shaft, disconnect the linkage, remove the right de Dion<br>
> elbow's four nuts and 12 set bolts, slide the right elbow off, remove the<br>
> defective gaiter, and then just replace the gaiter and reassemble in<br>
> reverse?<br>
><br>
> It would sure save a lot of time over removing the entire de Dion tube.<br>
> Would appreciate any input, especially if anyone has accomplished this in<br>
> such a manner.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance, Lance<br>
><br>
><br>
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> ?<br>
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2022 16:17:53 -0500<br>
> From: garrett bourque <<a href="mailto:gbbourque@gmail.com" target="_blank">gbbourque@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
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> Hello Rovernet and Lance,<br>
> You can take the inside portion out of the outside portion of the Dedion<br>
> tube. I have done it. The o ring does not offer much resistance as you<br>
> slide the parts apart from each other.<br>
> If you are feeling creative... Take a measurement of the diameter of the<br>
> tube/ boot. Maybe a hydraulic supply store, or even a plumbing flex<br>
> coupling could be substituted. Writing to you from chilly, hold the<br>
> cayenne, Jefferson, Maine. Good luck! Garrett Bourque<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:10 PM Lance La Certe via Rovernet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Several years ago I serviced the entire de Dion unit, installing new<br>
> > seals, as well as a new, aftermarket gaiter. Unfortunately, even with<br>
> > very little mileage, the cheap reproduction has begun to fail (the rubber<br>
> > folds are beginning to crack, not due to any extreme mechanical force).<br>
> I<br>
> > recently acquired an excellent, NOS, OEM gaiter for replacement.<br>
> ><br>
> > Here's the question. Is there any reason why, with the driver's side de<br>
> > Dion elbow and center tube supported, that I can't just remove the<br>
> > passenger side half-shaft, disconnect the linkage, remove the right de<br>
> Dion<br>
> > elbow's four nuts and 12 set bolts, slide the right elbow off, remove the<br>
> > defective gaiter, and then just replace the gaiter and reassemble in<br>
> > reverse?<br>
> ><br>
> > It would sure save a lot of time over removing the entire de Dion tube.<br>
> > Would appreciate any input, especially if anyone has accomplished this<br>
> in<br>
> > such a manner.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks in advance, Lance<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ?<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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> From: Vern Inkspot <<a href="mailto:vern@inkspotco.com" target="_blank">vern@inkspotco.com</a>><br>
> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] de Dion gaiter replacement question<br>
> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:0AED39B9-229D-4818-935C-D44789637A55@inkspotco.com" target="_blank">0AED39B9-229D-4818-935C-D44789637A55@inkspotco.com</a>><br>
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> That?s taking too much apart. All you need to do is unbolt the inner tube<br>
> end from the elbow, no need to remove the half shaft. There is enough<br>
> flexibility in the trailing arm bushes to drop the tube end down far enough<br>
> to slid the new gaiter on. It's a bit of work to get it over the flange,<br>
> but doable.<br>
> Don?t tighten the gaiter clamp until the car is back down on the ground<br>
> and and you've bounced it up and down a few times. Other wise you might end<br>
> up with the boot twisted and it?ll soon tear.<br>
><br>
> By the way, if your tube is an oil filled one a lot of folks are now<br>
> draining the oil and just greasing the tube on assembly, which is what<br>
> Rover did in the end. Seems to work well by all accounts, and might<br>
> preserve the boot a bit longer.<br>
><br>
> It also seems to me there should be a hole in the boot somewhere to allow<br>
> air to equalize, but I?m not sure about that. If so, it should be at the<br>
> top.<br>
><br>
> I?ve left the bit out about supporting the car safely on jackstands etc,<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> If you go to <a href="http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php</a> <<br>
> <a href="http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php</a>> and search for dedion boot<br>
> you?ll find lengthly how to?s. One by harveyP6 will be most informative.<br>
><br>
> Yours<br>
> Vern<br>
><br>
> > On Jan 21, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Lance La Certe via Rovernet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Several years ago I serviced the entire de Dion unit, installing new<br>
> seals, as well as a new, aftermarket gaiter. Unfortunately, even with<br>
> very little mileage, the cheap reproduction has begun to fail (the rubber<br>
> folds are beginning to crack, not due to any extreme mechanical force). I<br>
> recently acquired an excellent, NOS, OEM gaiter for replacement.<br>
> ><br>
> > Here's the question. Is there any reason why, with the driver's side de<br>
> Dion elbow and center tube supported, that I can't just remove the<br>
> passenger side half-shaft, disconnect the linkage, remove the right de Dion<br>
> elbow's four nuts and 12 set bolts, slide the right elbow off, remove the<br>
> defective gaiter, and then just replace the gaiter and reassemble in<br>
> reverse?<br>
> ><br>
> > It would sure save a lot of time over removing the entire de Dion tube.<br>
> Would appreciate any input, especially if anyone has accomplished this in<br>
> such a manner.<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks in advance, Lance<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > ?<br>
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> From: Lance La Certe <<a href="mailto:lacpsyd6@msn.com" target="_blank">lacpsyd6@msn.com</a>><br>
> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] de Dion gaiter replacement question<br>
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> Hey Garrett,<br>
><br>
> Thanks so much for the quick response. So pleased to hear this is as<br>
> relatively easy as I thought it might be.<br>
><br>
> I would have thought that you'd request us all to send you copious amounts<br>
> of cayenne to warm your bum in the frozen hinterlands.<br>
><br>
> Thanks again, Lance<br>
><br>
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><br>
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> ?<br>
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> From: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a>> on behalf of garrett<br>
> bourque via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
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> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Cc: garrett bourque <<a href="mailto:gbbourque@gmail.com" target="_blank">gbbourque@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] de Dion gaiter replacement question<br>
><br>
> Hello Rovernet and Lance,<br>
> You can take the inside portion out of the outside portion of the<br>
> Dedion tube. I have done it. The o ring does not offer much resistance as<br>
> you slide the parts apart from each other.<br>
> If you are feeling creative... Take a measurement of the diameter of<br>
> the tube/ boot. Maybe a hydraulic supply store, or even a plumbing flex<br>
> coupling could be substituted. Writing to you from chilly, hold the<br>
> cayenne, Jefferson, Maine. Good luck! Garrett Bourque<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 4:10 PM Lance La Certe via Rovernet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> Several years ago I serviced the entire de Dion unit, installing new<br>
> seals, as well as a new, aftermarket gaiter. Unfortunately, even with<br>
> very little mileage, the cheap reproduction has begun to fail (the rubber<br>
> folds are beginning to crack, not due to any extreme mechanical force). I<br>
> recently acquired an excellent, NOS, OEM gaiter for replacement.<br>
><br>
> Here's the question. Is there any reason why, with the driver's side de<br>
> Dion elbow and center tube supported, that I can't just remove the<br>
> passenger side half-shaft, disconnect the linkage, remove the right de Dion<br>
> elbow's four nuts and 12 set bolts, slide the right elbow off, remove the<br>
> defective gaiter, and then just replace the gaiter and reassemble in<br>
> reverse?<br>
><br>
> It would sure save a lot of time over removing the entire de Dion tube.<br>
> Would appreciate any input, especially if anyone has accomplished this in<br>
> such a manner.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance, Lance<br>
><br>
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> ?<br>
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> From: Lance La Certe <<a href="mailto:lacpsyd6@msn.com" target="_blank">lacpsyd6@msn.com</a>><br>
> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
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> And even more thanks to Vern for simplifying the process.<br>
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> From: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a>> on behalf of Vern Inkspot<br>
> via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
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> To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> Cc: Vern Inkspot <<a href="mailto:vern@inkspotco.com" target="_blank">vern@inkspotco.com</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] de Dion gaiter replacement question<br>
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> That?s taking too much apart. All you need to do is unbolt the inner tube<br>
> end from the elbow, no need to remove the half shaft. There is enough<br>
> flexibility in the trailing arm bushes to drop the tube end down far enough<br>
> to slid the new gaiter on. It's a bit of work to get it over the flange,<br>
> but doable.<br>
> Don?t tighten the gaiter clamp until the car is back down on the ground<br>
> and and you've bounced it up and down a few times. Other wise you might end<br>
> up with the boot twisted and it?ll soon tear.<br>
><br>
> By the way, if your tube is an oil filled one a lot of folks are now<br>
> draining the oil and just greasing the tube on assembly, which is what<br>
> Rover did in the end. Seems to work well by all accounts, and might<br>
> preserve the boot a bit longer.<br>
><br>
> It also seems to me there should be a hole in the boot somewhere to allow<br>
> air to equalize, but I?m not sure about that. If so, it should be at the<br>
> top.<br>
><br>
> I?ve left the bit out about supporting the car safely on jackstands etc,<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> If you go to <a href="http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php</a> and search for<br>
> dedion boot you?ll find lengthly how to?s. One by harveyP6 will be most<br>
> informative.<br>
><br>
> Yours<br>
> Vern<br>
><br>
> On Jan 21, 2022, at 1:09 PM, Lance La Certe via Rovernet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a><mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Several years ago I serviced the entire de Dion unit, installing new<br>
> seals, as well as a new, aftermarket gaiter. Unfortunately, even with<br>
> very little mileage, the cheap reproduction has begun to fail (the rubber<br>
> folds are beginning to crack, not due to any extreme mechanical force). I<br>
> recently acquired an excellent, NOS, OEM gaiter for replacement.<br>
><br>
> Here's the question. Is there any reason why, with the driver's side de<br>
> Dion elbow and center tube supported, that I can't just remove the<br>
> passenger side half-shaft, disconnect the linkage, remove the right de Dion<br>
> elbow's four nuts and 12 set bolts, slide the right elbow off, remove the<br>
> defective gaiter, and then just replace the gaiter and reassemble in<br>
> reverse?<br>
><br>
> It would sure save a lot of time over removing the entire de Dion tube.<br>
> Would appreciate any input, especially if anyone has accomplished this in<br>
> such a manner.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance, Lance<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ?<br>
><br>
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> On a completely different thread, I'm trying to find a lug nut socket<br>
> (probably nylon lined) that won't mar/damage my newly chromed lug nuts ('70<br>
> 3500S). With my caliper, my lug nut measures 17.8 mm so I'm assuming I<br>
> need an 18mm socket rather than an SAE.<br>
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> I suspect the proper socket will be 3/8 BSW (Whitworth) / 7/16 BS (also<br>
> Whitworth ? it?s complicated). 18 mm should work.<br>
><br>
> Yours<br>
> Vern<br>
><br>
> > On Jan 21, 2022, at 1:48 PM, Lance La Certe via Rovernet <<br>
> <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On a completely different thread, I'm trying to find a lug nut socket<br>
> (probably nylon lined) that won't mar/damage my newly chromed lug nuts ('70<br>
> 3500S). With my caliper, my lug nut measures 17.8 mm so I'm assuming I<br>
> need an 18mm socket rather than an SAE.<br>
> ><br>
> > Any recommendations/sources?<br>
> ><br>
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Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2022 00:33:22 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Roland Young <<a href="mailto:veetwinrider@yahoo.com" target="_blank">veetwinrider@yahoo.com</a>><br>
To: Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
Subject: [Rovernet] My Funny Rover Story<br>
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Hi rover folks! My memory was jogged back when Wadhams was mentioned recently. I thought I would tell my Rover Adventure as I do not believe I've ever mentioned it. Here we go.<br>
It was around 2000 and was going to visit London, meeting up with my wife that was on a business trip to India and then the UK. One of the places I wanted to visit was Roverpart of London. We it was time for me to go, my wife asked me to take on of the kids with me and she would take the other to Harrod's. Ok, so with young child in tow, I went down to the train station and bought a couple of BR tickets. I asked the platform agent which track for Norwood Junction and he asked, "What do you want to go there for?" My daughter gave me the side eye at that time. We arrived in NJ and went looking for Whitehorse Lane and came upon Roverpart of London. I spoke to the owner (Mark?) and bought quite a few things, Rover 3L Brochure, amber turn lenses (my red ones were faded and the amber ones were 1/2 the price. I also bought a replacement steering wheel. The owner, told me to hurry, it was starting to get dark and that I should return to the train station. He mentioned how surprised his wife was in moving there as she had come from Cornwall. I guess Cornwall is a less gritty town. We did get on the train before dark and we got many quzzical looks from other passengers while we sat there holding a steering wheel.?<br>
Fast forward to going back to the states: Seems there were a lot of issues with BA that day and that our luggage was going to be on a separate flight and if I can identify 3 items in my luggage so they can get it back to me. He stopped me at steering wheel. Yes, we were reunited with our luggage. It was a very good trip as I was able to go to the autojumble at Ally Pally that trip and we went to Lemington Spa so we could go to the History Museum in Gaydon. We stayed at the "Manor Inn"(?). That was also funny as we took a bus from Lemington Spa and dropped off at the entrance to the Museum. It's probably a 1/4 mile from the road to the museum and the site of the four of us walking on the road. The guards felt bad for us and give us a ride in a golfcart to the entrance. I wish I had more time there as I spent some time looking up my 3L and found it in the books and ordered the build sheet. I also bought "In The Rover Tradition" video. On the way back we could not remember which direction we came from, so my wife and oldest stayed on one side of the road and my youngest and I stayed on the other. We flagged down a bus and he told us it's not an offical stop and that if we were still there on his way back he would pick us up. He did and we made it back to Lemington Spa safe and sound. Hope I didn't bore everyone.<br>
Cheers.<br>
Roland<br>
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To: Roland Young via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [Rovernet] My Funny Rover Story<br>
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What a great story! Thanks for sharing it with us!<br>
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? -- Bill D.<br>
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On 22-Jan.-2022 7:33 p.m., Roland Young via Rovernet wrote:<br>
> Hi rover folks! My memory was jogged back when Wadhams was mentioned <br>
> recently. I thought I would tell my Rover Adventure as I do not <br>
> believe I've ever mentioned it. Here we go.<br>
><br>
> It was around 2000 and was going to visit London, meeting up with my <br>
> wife that was on a business trip to India and then the UK. One of the <br>
> places I wanted to visit was Roverpart of London. We it was time for <br>
> me to go, my wife asked me to take on of the kids with me and she <br>
> would take the other to Harrod's. Ok, so with young child in tow, I <br>
> went down to the train station and bought a couple of BR tickets. I <br>
> asked the platform agent which track for Norwood Junction and he <br>
> asked, "What do you want to go there for?" My daughter gave me the <br>
> side eye at that time. We arrived in NJ and went looking for <br>
> Whitehorse Lane and came upon Roverpart of London. I spoke to the <br>
> owner (Mark?) and bought quite a few things, Rover 3L Brochure, amber <br>
> turn lenses (my red ones were faded and the amber ones were 1/2 the <br>
> price. I also bought a replacement steering wheel. The owner, told me <br>
> to hurry, it was starting to get dark and that I should return to the <br>
> train station. He mentioned how surprised his wife was in moving there <br>
> as she had come from Cornwall. I guess Cornwall is a less gritty town. <br>
> We did get on the train before dark and we got many quzzical looks <br>
> from other passengers while we sat there holding a steering wheel.<br>
><br>
> Fast forward to going back to the states: Seems there were a lot of <br>
> issues with BA that day and that our luggage was going to be on a <br>
> separate flight and if I can identify 3 items in my luggage so they <br>
> can get it back to me. He stopped me at steering wheel. Yes, we were <br>
> reunited with our luggage. It was a very good trip as I was able to go <br>
> to the autojumble at Ally Pally that trip and we went to Lemington Spa <br>
> so we could go to the History Museum in Gaydon. We stayed at the <br>
> "Manor Inn"(?). That was also funny as we took a bus from Lemington <br>
> Spa and dropped off at the entrance to the Museum. It's probably a 1/4 <br>
> mile from the road to the museum and the site of the four of us <br>
> walking on the road. The guards felt bad for us and give us a ride in <br>
> a golfcart to the entrance. I wish I had more time there as I spent <br>
> some time looking up my 3L and found it in the books and ordered the <br>
> build sheet. I also bought "In The Rover Tradition" video. On the way <br>
> back we could not remember which direction we came from, so my wife <br>
> and oldest stayed on one side of the road and my youngest and I stayed <br>
> on the other. We flagged down a bus and he told us it's not an offical <br>
> stop and that if we were still there on his way back he would pick us <br>
> up. He did and we made it back to Lemington Spa safe and sound. Hope I <br>
> didn't bore everyone.<br>
><br>
> Cheers.<br>
><br>
> Roland<br>
><br>
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