<div dir="ltr">Hello Robert/ Rovernet,<div> The Lucas number should be 25673 according to a Lucas original parts catalog. Get a gear reduction one if you can locate one. I have fit one to multiple Jaguars, 70's small block Ford engines and old air cooled Porsches that were 6 volt.</div><div> Benefits are that the starter has less battery draw and they often turn at a higher speed. Internal parts are not worn out from years of use. I do have an early automatic one here, but do not think I have any others.</div><div>Good luck with your repairs, Garrett Bourque</div><div>........................</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:39 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Thanks. I'm trying to get a gear reduction one locally from a builder, but am having problems.<br>
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Thank you.<br>
<br>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Starter for 2000TC<br>
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For what it's worth, I gave up on my original starter and bought a gear-reduction unit. I normally hate the gear-reduction units, but after a second rebuild of the original still resulted in iffy performance, I bought one from WOSP and have loved it ever since.<br>
<br>
I normally hesitate to fit a gear-reduction unit to any other classic, but I've been super-happy with this one. Perhaps it's because the 2000TC is high compression, but it seems to make a really big difference.<br>
<br>
I reached out to their US arm at <a href="mailto:info@wosperformance.com" target="_blank">info@wosperformance.com</a> and I think they had it shipped the same day. Their website is<br>
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Tom<br>
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On 03/21/2022 8:23 PM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet wrote:<br>
> *Place is having a hard time coming up with a starter that fits my 71 <br>
> 2000TC. They sent two so far.*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *They’re supplying a brand new one, but the Allen nuts on the plate <br>
> aren’t fitting into the hole of the bell housing.*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Anybody have any one, or at least has the Lucas number? Mine appears <br>
> to the original to the car, but the numbers are hard to make out after <br>
> a number of rebuilds apparently.*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Bob *<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *From:* Robert Ruggeri<br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:58 PM<br>
> *To:* Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
> *Subject:* Starter for 2000TC<br>
> <br>
> *Hi all:*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Ignition key nightmare was solved; Garrett Bourque provided a new <br>
> one.*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Starter is not working right so I’m sourcing one from Classic Car <br>
> Performance (formerly British Starters.com) in nearby Saratoga <br>
> Springs. They originally were going to build me a new one, but <br>
> decided to supply a new one for a Land Rover (from the 50-70 series) <br>
> which they claim is identical. Does anyone know if that’s correct? <br>
> Are they exactly the same?*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Bob *<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*<br>
> <br>
> *Attorney-at-Law*<br>
> <br>
> *1846 Union Street*<br>
> <br>
> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*<br>
> <br>
> *Tel: 518.423.9755*<br>
> <br>
> *Fax: 518.377.4646*<br>
> <br>
> *_<a href="mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com" target="_blank">robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com" target="_blank">robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com</a>>_*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *From:* Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a>>> *On Behalf Of *Robert Ruggeri <br>
> via Rovernet<br>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:28 PM<br>
> *To:* pierre janusz <<a href="mailto:pjemail@aol.com" target="_blank">pjemail@aol.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:pjemail@aol.com" target="_blank">pjemail@aol.com</a>>><br>
> *Cc:* <a href="mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com" target="_blank">robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com" target="_blank">robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com</a>>; Rovernet <br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma<br>
> <br>
> *Hi Pierre*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Thanks for the helpful input. We’re hoping initially to get a good <br>
> locksmith here to try to make a key. (Blanks appear to be available <br>
> in the US). Long shot but worth trying. Without the codes, I’m not <br>
> sure how they proceed, frankly, but ….*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Short of that, it’ll have to be the entire locking assembly (which <br>
> someone here can supply NOS). My concern is finding someone to do a <br>
> competent job replacing it.*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *As for my apparent – and uncharacteristic - lack of anger, it’s <br>
> simply a function of exhaustion with mechanics in this area (upstate <br>
> NY). As for British cars, I also have a Mark 10 and a Range Rover <br>
> Classic. Over the years we’ve now lost an entire generation of <br>
> competent foreign classic car mechanics. There is a renowned Jag <br>
> mechanic not too far away; he took good care of my Mark 10 over the <br>
> decades but his son is not nearly as careful. The torch is not being <br>
> passed, I’m afraid. For those, like myself, who are not mechanics, <br>
> this is becoming a real labor of love. (But I am an attorney and can <br>
> assure you that my interests are not being ignored in this particular <br>
> matter). *<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *I also have 6 Peugeots and they, too, are a real struggle to keep on <br>
> the road in the US. There’s a superb shop, a former dealer, in <br>
> Burlington VT, 200 miles away, and they take care of the Peugeots, the <br>
> Rangie, and they overhauled the P6. I may have to truck it back to <br>
> them for the lock assembly job before this is over…. *<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> */_Bon courage_/**with the isolation. Thanks again*<br>
> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *Bob *<br>
> <br>
> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*<br>
> <br>
> *1846 Union Street*<br>
> <br>
> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*<br>
> <br>
> *Tel: 518.423.9755*<br>
> <br>
> *Fax: 518.377.4646*<br>
> <br>
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> <br>
> **<br>
> <br>
> *From:* Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a>>> *On Behalf Of *pierre janusz <br>
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> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:49 AM<br>
> *To:* <a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma<br>
> <br>
> I have been following this thread without intervening because I hoped <br>
> that someone in N. America would be able to help you with what you <br>
> need, but so far that does not seem to have happened. I live in the UK.<br>
> <br>
> I think you will have a real problem getting the key reproduced <br>
> without one which can be copied. I have a similar problem here in the <br>
> UK where I have lost the key to a car with a column lock, and my <br>
> attempts through British Motor Heritage to get the necessary <br>
> information foundered because they don't appear to have this sort of <br>
> information for Rovers (although it would appear that it might be available for other marques).<br>
> <br>
> I suspect that as others have already told you, the only solution is a <br>
> new steering column lock assembly (although you will be able to re-use <br>
> the electrical component if you just buy the lock part). I have a LHD <br>
> assembly as used on European series 2 cars, but I do not know if it is <br>
> the same as used on the Federal models, which might be the same as on <br>
> the 3500S Auto. I did have some 3500S Auto ones, but I believe that I <br>
> have now sold them all, but I can have a look. However, at the moment <br>
> I have been stranded in France after a skiing holiday because I tested <br>
> positive for Covid (although I have had all three injections), and the <br>
> dear French want me to self isolate here for 10 days (several of which <br>
> have now passed).<br>
> <br>
> I am surprised at how little anger you appear to be displaying towards <br>
> your mechanic who is the root cause of all this problem, having been <br>
> extremely careless with your property. It would be my advice that you <br>
> just buy a lock assembly and tell him he will have to pay all <br>
> associated costs and fit it free of charge.<br>
> <br>
> Pierre Janusz<br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a> <br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>>><br>
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> CC: Robert Ruggeri <<a href="mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com" target="_blank">robert.ruggeri.esq@outlook.com</a> <br>
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> Sent: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 2:42<br>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma<br>
> <br>
> Thanks for all the good ideas. I'll follow up on that one also.<br>
> <br>
> Bob<br>
> <br>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma<br>
> <br>
> Could the key number be obtained via a heritage certificate, or <br>
> otherwise, and the buyer the right key from <br>
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> On Dec 29, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet<br>
> <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" target="_blank">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> Hi All<br>
> <br>
> I’ve got Bob fixed up so he should be getting the rovernet again,<br>
> and here’s the update. It’s confirmed that he has locking steering.<br>
> <br>
> So the long story is he needs: key blanks or a used column lock with<br>
> keys or (dreaming) a new assembly. Part number in 1974 was 620179,<br>
> 2200 used the same appearing assembly but with part number 620264.<br>
> <br>
> The lock should use a single sided key as far as a blank goes. A<br>
> company called Clark & Clark in Michigan makes blanks for the<br>
> correct era of BL cars, but that doesn't mean they make the right<br>
> one for Bob’s early A suffix car.<br>
> <br>
> Even better would be the body shop finding the key, I’ve still got<br>
> my fingers crossed for Bob on that.<br>
> <br>
> Yours<br>
> <br>
> Vern<br>
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