<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Geoff,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Interesting story.</div><div class="">I am for an anglo irish family. An ancestor, one Bagenal Harvey was involved in the taking of Wexford from the British in 1798.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dermot Harvey<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 23, 2025, at 1:31 PM, geffandjulie--- via Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" class="">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta charset="UTF-8" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Not unusual, savage story of the IRA campaign for total control of the 6 counties in the northeast that still remain British.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">An Poblacht means<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">the Republic</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>in Irish. Reading it gives a sense of the fervor, often murderous, of the independence movement. To this day, the Irish call it the Revolution, which finally achieved a nation after conquest of Eire in the 13-1400s.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">My 4 grandparents were all Irish and immigrated here in the 1890s. I was raised to hate the “Brits” because they “dragged my father’s cousin to death behind a van”. IRA cousin, it seemed.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">However, when we visited the charming village of Dingle, where a monument to “Bobby Mac” exists even today, the story was a bit different: Bobby Mac was on the wrong side of the short, fortunately not too nasty, Civil war, and came down from the hills to “visit his mother, or go to Mass”. And was shot by Irish. The civil war was fought<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">after<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></i> the truce, and pitted those who wanted complete independence, vs those who would still swear allegiance to the King, and become effectively a Commonwealth country. We know who won.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Ironically, in our many visits to Eire, distaste for Brits is little more than a joke. Only once did we encounter real antipathy, and that family’s kids were…in school in UK! The 2 nations have almost no borders, Irish can still vote in local elections in UK< etc.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">The Palestinian Israeli tragedy could learn from the Irish. After independence there was a Land Commission to fairly distribute the lordly estates. Many British owners left, many stayed, with less land. The same process took place in South Africa after apartheid ended.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Ireland was a poor, agricultural nation when we first visited in the 60s . The Irish were always highly educated, literate, witty, social. It was EU money that transformed the nation into the prosperous, dynamic republic.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Geoffrey W<b class="">. McCarthy</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MD MBA DipAvMed Col USAFMC (ret)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">677 NW Melinda Ave<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">Portland OR 97210<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class="">503-799-3809 (m)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rovernet-bounces@rovernet.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Lance La Certe via Rovernet<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, February 22, 2025 5:30 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rovernet <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lance La Certe <<a href="mailto:lacpsyd6@msn.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">lacpsyd6@msn.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Rovernet] Rover espionage!!!!!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Was in Washington DC last weekend and visited the fabulous Spy Musuem, just off the National Mall (if you haven't been, it is a MUST).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">As we were working our way through, I was caught off guard by a photo and story of an undercover soldier working for the British government who was killed by the IRA.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Pretty as you please, Telford Stuart, was leaning against a Series 1 P6<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Here ya go! (this is a very detailed article which was not part of the museum's display).<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26370" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://www.anphoblacht.com/contents/26370</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div id="LPBorder_GTaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYW5waG9ibGFjaHQuY29tL2NvbnRlbnRzLzI2Mzcw" style="margin-top: 12pt; margin-bottom: 12pt; min-width: 424px;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 966px; border: 1pt solid rgb(200, 200, 200);"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td valign="top" style="border: none; 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