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<body><div>Geoff,</div><div>You could do some research on past online auction sales at <a href="https://www.classic.com/m/rover/p4/" style="font-size: 12pt;">https://www.classic.com/m/rover/p4/</a>. Cars and Bids seems to be an obscure auction site compared to BAT and eBay, so it may not bring in the same bidding competition, but who knows.</div><div><br /></div><div>A couple years ago, I had sold a completely frame-off restored 53 to California albeit with a non-original drivetrain for $10K. Having restored two 53's and about to finish a P5B, I can attest that mechanical parts, body and paint, and interior carpet/door panels/seats altogether very easily adds up to over $6000-8000 while doing all the work myself with zero (or negative!) labor compensation. </div><div></div><div><br /></div><div>I know of 3 other 105's besides the two that Steve mentioned in New England. One is in NM, one in Colorado, and I have the same 58 105S serial 007 that I found in rural Texas last year that condition-wise is the polar opposite of the one currently up for sale and essentially worthless in need of a major investment to restore.</div><div><br /></div><div>Jon</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div>
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<div>From "Steve Manwell via Rovernet" <<a href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org">rovernet@rovernet.org</a>></div>
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<div>Cc "Steve Manwell" <<a href="mailto:sman_mail@comcast.net">sman_mail@comcast.net</a>></div>
<div>Date 2/2/2026 8:03:15 AM</div>
<div>Subject Re: [Rovernet] 1958 Rover P4 105S for Sale - Cars & Bids</div></div><div x-em-quote=""><br /></div>
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<p>Hi Geoff,</p>
<p>It's hard to put a value on a Rover in any case, especially so
today with classic car values generally lower, and also not being
familiar with this particular car, not looking at it up close, not
knowing how it runs and drives, etc.
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<p>With that disclaimer, here are some thoughts: $5000 to $6000
seems possible in an on-line auction situation based on some
recent Rover sales on BAT, though these are mostly P6s. This 105S
is is much rarer than any P6, but there may not be as many people
that know they want a P4. The rust-free or mostly rust-free
chassis and body, good chrome, good chrome and driver condition
mean it should sell for more than project car money. You won't
see another one at the local British car show -- I only know of
two other 4-speed/OD 105's, and they are in New England.
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<p>Maybe it could be worth $10,000, but that seems unlikely unless
several people keep bidding because they want it in what amounts
to a wholesale auction. Several things limit value: the paint
looks very presentable, but some of the photos show orange peal,
overs-spray, chips, etc. The interior was re-done pretty well,
but it lost some of the original detail and now needs some
repairs. Not much is known about the service history -- a few
specific brake repairs are mentioned, but it could need a more
thorough brake system rebuild. There are no photos of the exhaust
system other than the tail pipe, which looks like the original
bigger bore size on the 105 and 110. The tires are much too wide,
so the steering probably will be quite heavy. Nothing suggests
it needs major restoration, but it likely needs some time and
money spent on re-commissioning and improvements.
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<p>Steve</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2/1/2026 7:32 PM, GeffMcCarthy via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Bid
currently $3100. Ends tomorrow. I might bid. What do you
think this P4 is really worth, please?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Geoffrey
W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed Col USAFMC (ret)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">677 NW
Melinda Ave
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Portland
OR 97210
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">503-799-3809
(m)
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
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</b>Steve Manwell via Rovernet<br />
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January 31, 2026 12:17<br />
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rovernet@rovernet.org">rovernet@rovernet.org</a><br />
<b>Cc:</b> Steve Manwell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sman_mail@comcast.net"><sman_mail@comcast.net></a><br />
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Rovernet] 1958 Rover P4 105S for
Sale - Cars & Bids
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<p>Hi Jon,<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
<p>I'm glad its on the other side of the continent to make it
less tempting to me! One couldn't do much restoration on
another one for the current bid plus shipping.
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<p>It looks to be in good condition overall. Seems like it
would be a good driver needing limited repairs and
improvements.
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<p>I've had a good driver-condition 100 for years, and my
grandfather's 1964 110 awaits restoration.
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<p>Steve Manwell<o:p xmlns:o="#unknown"></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/27/2026 8:50 AM, Jon Stanley via
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<p class="MsoNormal">This nice 58 105S came up for auction
yesterday, located in California:
<a href="https://carsandbids.com/auctions/35dERzlj/1958-rover-p4-105s" moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://carsandbids.com/auctions/35dERzlj/1958-rover-p4-105s</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is serial 005 of only 148 LHD
exports made of this year/model. Tempting because I have
the same 58 105S, serial 007 that I rescued out of rural
central Texas that needs a ton of work to get
operational and look as good.
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