[Rovernet] dedion overhaul woes
Roy Babiuk
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Thu Dec 31 13:39:09 EST 2015
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> 1. DeDion overhaul woes (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D)
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> From: LANCE LA CERTE PSY D <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
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> Having a bugger of a time trying to figure out how to "carefully drift" out the right side retainer and seal. The left hand side is easily prised out and replaced. There are brass sleeves, 1 3/4" long inside each end of the outer tube. When the manual indicates 'careful drifing' to remove the retainer (which is about 3/4" long with a small lip, on the exterior of the outer tube) I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be carefully tapping on the inner brass sleeve to push the seal and the retainer off the end????
> Is there anyway to carefully tap around the full circumference of that small lip to get the retainer to pop off?
> Why can't I just prise the seal out of this right end (as with the left end) without removing the retainer, and replace with a new seal?
> If I must drift it off by drifting/tapping on the inner brass sleeve, where in the world do I find a "soft metal" drift that long?
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> From: LANCE LA CERTE PSY D <lacpsyd6 at msn.com>
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> Having a bugger of a time trying to figure out how to "carefully drift" out the right side retainer and seal. The left hand side is easily prised out and replaced. There are brass sleeves, 1 3/4" long inside each end of the outer tube. When the manual indicates 'careful drifing' to remove the retainer (which is about 3/4" long with a small lip, on the exterior of the outer tube) I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be carefully tapping on the inner brass sleeve to push the seal and the retainer off the end????
> Is there anyway to carefully tap around the full circumference of that small lip to get the retainer to pop off?
> Why can't I just prise the seal out of this right end (as with the left end) without removing the retainer, and replace with a new seal?
> If I must drift it off by drifting/tapping on the inner brass sleeve, where in the world do I find a "soft metal" drift that long?
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> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>
> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., 1970 P6B
> Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 10:26:02 -0800
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
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> Hi Lance
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> Don?t mess with the brass bushings, they are thin and collapse easily.
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> In the past, I?ve just used a sharp probe to spear the seal and pull it out leaving the retainer in place. After the seal is removed I used a bearing puller to remove the retainer, though as I recall the first one I did I warped the retainer a little bit so decided I?d never do that again.
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> Yours
> Vern
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>> On Dec 30, 2015, at 10:06 AM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>> Having a bugger of a time trying to figure out how to "carefully drift" out the right side retainer and seal. The left hand side is easily prised out and replaced. There are brass sleeves, 1 3/4" long inside each end of the outer tube. When the manual indicates 'careful drifing' to remove the retainer (which is about 3/4" long with a small lip, on the exterior of the outer tube) I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be carefully tapping on the inner brass sleeve to push the seal and the retainer off the end????
>> Is there anyway to carefully tap around the full circumference of that small lip to get the retainer to pop off?
>> Why can't I just prise the seal out of this right end (as with the left end) without removing the retainer, and replace with a new seal?
>> If I must drift it off by drifting/tapping on the inner brass sleeve, where in the world do I find a "soft metal" drift that long?
>>
>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., 1970 P6B
>> Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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> Hello again Lance, If you are having trouble separating a seal or bearing
> race form a shoulder it is pressed up to and touches, use a sharp wood
> chisel as a wedge and proceed around the circumference of the De Dion tube
> very slowly, a little at a time, until you can use a tool/punch/prybar that
> is thicker or stronger. Good luck with it, Garrett
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> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 1:06 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>> Having a bugger of a time trying to figure out how to "carefully drift"
>> out the right side retainer and seal. The left hand side is easily prised
>> out and replaced. There are brass sleeves, 1 3/4" long inside each end
>> of the outer tube. When the manual indicates 'careful drifing' to remove
>> the retainer (which is about 3/4" long with a small lip, on the exterior of
>> the outer tube) I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be carefully tapping on the
>> inner brass sleeve to push the seal and the retainer off the end????
>> Is there anyway to carefully tap around the full circumference of that
>> small lip to get the retainer to pop off?
>> Why can't I just prise the seal out of this right end (as with the left
>> end) without removing the retainer, and replace with a new seal?
>> If I must drift it off by drifting/tapping on the inner brass sleeve,
>> where in the world do I find a "soft metal" drift that long?
>>
>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>
>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., 1970 P6B
>> Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book. Inside of a dog it's
>> too dark to read.
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> Hi Garrett, great idea. I'm going to give the hardwood chisel a go. If that doesn't work, I'm going to take the tube to an automotive machine shop near the house, because I don't want to damage this thing as replacing it would be difficult and costly.
> Thanks again, Lance
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> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
> Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
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>> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:35:04 -0500
>> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] DeDion overhaul woes
>> From: rovernet at rovernet.org
>> CC: gbbourque at gmail.com
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>> Hello again Lance, If you are having trouble separating a seal or bearing
>> race form a shoulder it is pressed up to and touches, use a sharp wood
>> chisel as a wedge and proceed around the circumference of the De Dion tube
>> very slowly, a little at a time, until you can use a tool/punch/prybar that
>> is thicker or stronger. Good luck with it, Garrett
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 1:06 PM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <
>> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
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>>> Having a bugger of a time trying to figure out how to "carefully drift"
>>> out the right side retainer and seal. The left hand side is easily prised
>>> out and replaced. There are brass sleeves, 1 3/4" long inside each end
>>> of the outer tube. When the manual indicates 'careful drifing' to remove
>>> the retainer (which is about 3/4" long with a small lip, on the exterior of
>>> the outer tube) I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be carefully tapping on the
>>> inner brass sleeve to push the seal and the retainer off the end????
>>> Is there anyway to carefully tap around the full circumference of that
>>> small lip to get the retainer to pop off?
>>> Why can't I just prise the seal out of this right end (as with the left
>>> end) without removing the retainer, and replace with a new seal?
>>> If I must drift it off by drifting/tapping on the inner brass sleeve,
>>> where in the world do I find a "soft metal" drift that long?
>>>
>>> Any help with this would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Lance La Certe, Psy.D., 1970 P6B
>>> Outside of a dog, a person's best friend is a book. Inside of a dog it's
>>> too dark to read.
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