[Rovernet] Rover 2000 engine mount
James Radcliffe
j_radcliffe at hotmail.com
Thu Aug 13 20:04:03 EDT 2020
This would be the one:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/volkswagen,1987,golf,1.6l+l4+diesel,1399147,transmission-manual,transmission+mount,8756
I recommend the change. Also fabricate a heat shield for the mount on the left hand side by the exhaust manifold. It will last longer that way.
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Today's Topics:
1. R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen engine mounts -
please references (Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS))
2. Re: R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen engine mounts
- please references (Jose Scoseria)
3. Re: R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen engine mounts
- please references (Steven Dibdin)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:37:16 +0000
From: "Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS)" <gianluca.ruotolo at enel.com>
To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
Subject: [Rovernet] R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen engine
mounts - please references
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Dear friends hope you all are well.
It is a very long time since.
My 2000 TC is going quite well and during this lockdown I' ve been using it quite often.
Please one info.
On a Rover p6 facebook group I' ve seen a discussion about Rover P6 engine mounts.
Someone changed them and fitted VolksWagen ones instead, normally used on 85 - 92 Jettas and Golf.
I do not need them now, but I'd like to have the references.
Have a look at the link which was posted.
The others to borrow the parts, see in the text, do not work.
Did someone do the upgrade?
Did it work well?
Thanks in advance for your answers and best regards.
Ciao, Gianluca.
http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php?threads/engine-mounts-4-cyl.33059/page-2
Fantastic upgrade!! I have been frustrated by worn engine mounts for the last couple of years, the situation is now so bad the engine almost jumps from the bonnet on firing up!, not to mention a very annoying tapping on the gearbox tunnel while the engine starts. After a quick word with Demetris I cant wait to try this!!
simmosimkins
Member
Apr 7, 2013#22
Massive thanks to Demetris, set me well on the way to sorting out this issue that has been frustrating me for the last couple of years, top guy!!
sdibbers
sdibbers
Well-Known Member
Apr 28, 2013#23
Hey Demitrius,
I think I have the same problem on my car with mounts and reversed brackets. Could you let me know if the VW Golf gearbox mounts were for an automatic or manual diesel model?
Thanks,
Steven
Demetris
Demetris
Well-Known Member
Apr 28, 2013#24
Hi Steven,
Unfortunately i don't have any part numbers at hand, but the exact mount that i fitted in my car was this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gearbox-E...s=63&clkid=6771754160825602292&_qi=RTM1178011
It seems that they where fitted as manual gearbox mount on a variety of VAG cars during the late '80 to early '90s, including diesels.
By the way they are still holding fine in my car.
sdibbers
sdibbers
Well-Known Member
Apr 28, 2013#25
Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has a handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines. Strangely enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my 2000TC
sdibbers
sdibbers
Well-Known Member
Apr 28, 2013#26
Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has a handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines. Strangely enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my 2000TC.
Linky: http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/p ... 2&sku=9216
simmosimkins
Member
Jul 21, 2013#27
FULL MARKS TO DEMETRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS IS A SPOT ON MODIFICATION
DISADVANTAGES ........................ no ,sorry, stuck on that one!
ADVANTAGES
1 Cheap parts to buy (?30 a pair delivered)
2 Very easy to fit
3 Once done much easier to fit and remove (no need to lock the awkward to reach bottom engine mount nut whilts undoing the top one) Mod has threaded insert- one top bolt only.
4 You cant get the origionals and
5 Why would you want to , these mounts are far superior (in my opinion)
6 No engine noise/vibration transmission, if it were not for my sports stainless it would be very hard to tell if the engine is still running at the lights!
THERE IS NO REASON WHATSOEVER NOT TO DO THIS, TREAT YOURSELVES!!!!!!!
BIG THANKS AGAIN TO DEMETRIS
Brian-Northampton
Administrator
Jul 21, 2013#28
Looking forward to all those benefits .......
Just got to put the exhaust back and the inlet manifold, then it's time for a test drive!
Barten
Barten
Active Member
Jul 22, 2013#29
Very good new for "smoothing" the four cylinder cars it seems. Well done Demetris! I am just wondering if these mount can be used on a 1965 2000 also? If thats the case I better order 2 for the future restoration.
regards, Barten
Demetris
Demetris
Well-Known Member
Jul 23, 2013#30
Thanks, i think that i was just lucky to spot the compatibility.
Barten, i don't see why these mountings could not be fitted into an early car. As far as i know the design of the 4 cyl mounting did not change through the years.
The Rovering Member
The Rovering Member
Well-Known Member
Jul 23, 2013#31
I'll be investing in a pair of these for Bruiser too. Nice investigative work.
suffolkpete
suffolkpete
Member
Oct 30, 2013#32
I've just done the same job on my 2200SC. I obtained my mounts from GSF. I found that I had to remove the exhaust manifold to gain access to the left-hand mounting and 65mm was too long as the bolts bottomed. Also the unthreaded shank of the bolt was too long. Perhaps setscrews should be used instead. I have to say, though, that I haven't experienced the same improvement that others have. The vibration is very harsh when first started from cold, although it gets better as the engine warms up, presumably the rubber is more compliant when it's warm, but even then it's no better than the originals.
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Inviato: gioved? 6 agosto 2020 12:03
A: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
Cc: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet] "I'll take Rover parts for $200, Alex"
Lance,
If they?re like my car, press the disc in and the headrest slides back and forth.
Tom
> On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:30 AM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> ?My car: '70 3500S NADA
>
> I was just gifted a NOS "Passenger's grab handle complete", Optional Equipment # 366837 for "cars numbered in the range 425-428 only".
>
> It comes complete with mounting hardware (nuts and washers). Does anyone have any idea where and how this was to be mounted, have any photos, and any recommendations?
>
> Additionally, I also received a pair of the "ET" headrests in excellent condition. I can see what appears to be a hinged/cantilevered mechanism inside, as well as the chrome disc/button on the side, but have no idea how this mechanism works for apparent adjustment.
>
> Any help would be appreciated, Lance
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:00:12 -0400
From: Jose Scoseria <jpsco44 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen
engine mounts - please references
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Buon giorno , Gianluca !
I did that to my TC , I had to enlarge the holes in the frame just a
little bit since the VW mount is slightly fatter than the original.
I read Demetris' post at classicroverforum ( THANK YOU , DEMETRIS !! ).
Ciao,
JP Scoseria
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 1:38 PM Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS) via Rovernet <
rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> Dear friends hope you all are well.
> It is a very long time since.
>
> My 2000 TC is going quite well and during this lockdown I' ve been using
> it quite often.
>
> Please one info.
> On a Rover p6 facebook group I' ve seen a discussion about Rover P6 engine
> mounts.
> Someone changed them and fitted VolksWagen ones instead, normally used on
> 85 - 92 Jettas and Golf.
> I do not need them now, but I'd like to have the references.
>
> Have a look at the link which was posted.
> The others to borrow the parts, see in the text, do not work.
>
> Did someone do the upgrade?
> Did it work well?
>
> Thanks in advance for your answers and best regards.
>
> Ciao, Gianluca.
>
>
> http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php?threads/engine-mounts-4-cyl.33059/page-2
>
> Fantastic upgrade!! I have been frustrated by worn engine mounts for the
> last couple of years, the situation is now so bad the engine almost jumps
> from the bonnet on firing up!, not to mention a very annoying tapping on
> the gearbox tunnel while the engine starts. After a quick word with
> Demetris I cant wait to try this!!
> simmosimkins
> Member
> Apr 7, 2013#22
> Massive thanks to Demetris, set me well on the way to sorting out this
> issue that has been frustrating me for the last couple of years, top guy!!
> sdibbers
> sdibbers
> Well-Known Member
> Apr 28, 2013#23
> Hey Demitrius,
>
> I think I have the same problem on my car with mounts and reversed
> brackets. Could you let me know if the VW Golf gearbox mounts were for an
> automatic or manual diesel model?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steven
> Demetris
> Demetris
> Well-Known Member
> Apr 28, 2013#24
> Hi Steven,
> Unfortunately i don't have any part numbers at hand, but the exact mount
> that i fitted in my car was this:
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gearbox-E...s=63&clkid=6771754160825602292&_qi=RTM1178011
> It seems that they where fitted as manual gearbox mount on a variety of
> VAG cars during the late '80 to early '90s, including diesels.
>
> By the way they are still holding fine in my car.
> sdibbers
> sdibbers
> Well-Known Member
> Apr 28, 2013#25
> Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has a
> handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from
> 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines. Strangely
> enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never
> made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my
> 2000TC
> sdibbers
> sdibbers
> Well-Known Member
> Apr 28, 2013#26
> Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has a
> handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from
> 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines. Strangely
> enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never
> made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my
> 2000TC.
>
> Linky: http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/p ... 2&sku=9216
> simmosimkins
> Member
> Jul 21, 2013#27
> FULL MARKS TO DEMETRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> THIS IS A SPOT ON MODIFICATION
>
> DISADVANTAGES ........................ no ,sorry, stuck on that one!
>
> ADVANTAGES
>
> 1 Cheap parts to buy (?30 a pair delivered)
> 2 Very easy to fit
> 3 Once done much easier to fit and remove (no need to lock the awkward to
> reach bottom engine mount nut whilts undoing the top one) Mod has threaded
> insert- one top bolt only.
> 4 You cant get the origionals and
> 5 Why would you want to , these mounts are far superior (in my opinion)
> 6 No engine noise/vibration transmission, if it were not for my sports
> stainless it would be very hard to tell if the engine is still running at
> the lights!
>
> THERE IS NO REASON WHATSOEVER NOT TO DO THIS, TREAT YOURSELVES!!!!!!!
>
> BIG THANKS AGAIN TO DEMETRIS
> Brian-Northampton
> Administrator
> Jul 21, 2013#28
> Looking forward to all those benefits .......
>
> Just got to put the exhaust back and the inlet manifold, then it's time
> for a test drive!
> Barten
> Barten
> Active Member
> Jul 22, 2013#29
> Very good new for "smoothing" the four cylinder cars it seems. Well done
> Demetris! I am just wondering if these mount can be used on a 1965 2000
> also? If thats the case I better order 2 for the future restoration.
> regards, Barten
> Demetris
> Demetris
> Well-Known Member
> Jul 23, 2013#30
> Thanks, i think that i was just lucky to spot the compatibility.
>
> Barten, i don't see why these mountings could not be fitted into an early
> car. As far as i know the design of the 4 cyl mounting did not change
> through the years.
> The Rovering Member
> The Rovering Member
> Well-Known Member
> Jul 23, 2013#31
> I'll be investing in a pair of these for Bruiser too. Nice investigative
> work.
> suffolkpete
> suffolkpete
> Member
> Oct 30, 2013#32
> I've just done the same job on my 2200SC. I obtained my mounts from GSF. I
> found that I had to remove the exhaust manifold to gain access to the
> left-hand mounting and 65mm was too long as the bolts bottomed. Also the
> unthreaded shank of the bolt was too long. Perhaps setscrews should be used
> instead. I have to say, though, that I haven't experienced the same
> improvement that others have. The vibration is very harsh when first
> started from cold, although it gets better as the engine warms up,
> presumably the rubber is more compliant when it's warm, but even then it's
> no better than the originals.
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> Per conto di Tom Rymes via
> Rovernet
> Inviato: gioved? 6 agosto 2020 12:03
> A: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Cc: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet] "I'll take Rover parts for $200, Alex"
>
> Lance,
>
> If they?re like my car, press the disc in and the headrest slides back and
> forth.
>
> Tom
>
> > On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:30 AM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?My car: '70 3500S NADA
> >
> > I was just gifted a NOS "Passenger's grab handle complete", Optional
> Equipment # 366837 for "cars numbered in the range 425-428 only".
> >
> > It comes complete with mounting hardware (nuts and washers). Does
> anyone have any idea where and how this was to be mounted, have any photos,
> and any recommendations?
> >
> > Additionally, I also received a pair of the "ET" headrests in excellent
> condition. I can see what appears to be a hinged/cantilevered mechanism
> inside, as well as the chrome disc/button on the side, but have no idea how
> this mechanism works for apparent adjustment.
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated, Lance
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:38:23 -0400
From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] R: - 4 pots Rover p6 engine and Volkswagen
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HI Giancarlo,
I can't find the part number off at the moment. But if you specify a
transmission mount for a 1987 Golf that'll give you the correct part. Order
two and you'll be good. I fitted a pair a good few years back and they hold
up great. Another plus is they are hydraulically filled so do a great job
of damping vibrations into the body.
Best,
Steven
On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 2:01 PM Jose Scoseria via Rovernet <
rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> Buon giorno , Gianluca !
> I did that to my TC , I had to enlarge the holes in the frame just a
> little bit since the VW mount is slightly fatter than the original.
> I read Demetris' post at classicroverforum ( THANK YOU , DEMETRIS !! ).
>
> Ciao,
> JP Scoseria
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020, 1:38 PM Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS) via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> > Dear friends hope you all are well.
> > It is a very long time since.
> >
> > My 2000 TC is going quite well and during this lockdown I' ve been using
> > it quite often.
> >
> > Please one info.
> > On a Rover p6 facebook group I' ve seen a discussion about Rover P6
> engine
> > mounts.
> > Someone changed them and fitted VolksWagen ones instead, normally used on
> > 85 - 92 Jettas and Golf.
> > I do not need them now, but I'd like to have the references.
> >
> > Have a look at the link which was posted.
> > The others to borrow the parts, see in the text, do not work.
> >
> > Did someone do the upgrade?
> > Did it work well?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your answers and best regards.
> >
> > Ciao, Gianluca.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.classicroverforum.net/index.php?threads/engine-mounts-4-cyl.33059/page-2
> >
> > Fantastic upgrade!! I have been frustrated by worn engine mounts for the
> > last couple of years, the situation is now so bad the engine almost jumps
> > from the bonnet on firing up!, not to mention a very annoying tapping on
> > the gearbox tunnel while the engine starts. After a quick word with
> > Demetris I cant wait to try this!!
> > simmosimkins
> > Member
> > Apr 7, 2013#22
> > Massive thanks to Demetris, set me well on the way to sorting out this
> > issue that has been frustrating me for the last couple of years, top
> guy!!
> > sdibbers
> > sdibbers
> > Well-Known Member
> > Apr 28, 2013#23
> > Hey Demitrius,
> >
> > I think I have the same problem on my car with mounts and reversed
> > brackets. Could you let me know if the VW Golf gearbox mounts were for an
> > automatic or manual diesel model?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Steven
> > Demetris
> > Demetris
> > Well-Known Member
> > Apr 28, 2013#24
> > Hi Steven,
> > Unfortunately i don't have any part numbers at hand, but the exact mount
> > that i fitted in my car was this:
> >
> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gearbox-E...s=63&clkid=6771754160825602292&_qi=RTM1178011
> > It seems that they where fitted as manual gearbox mount on a variety of
> > VAG cars during the late '80 to early '90s, including diesels.
> >
> > By the way they are still holding fine in my car.
> > sdibbers
> > sdibbers
> > Well-Known Member
> > Apr 28, 2013#25
> > Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has
> a
> > handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from
> > 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines.
> Strangely
> > enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never
> > made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my
> > 2000TC
> > sdibbers
> > sdibbers
> > Well-Known Member
> > Apr 28, 2013#26
> > Great news! I've found a US based VW specialist that stocks them and has
> a
> > handy application list. Seems they were used on all Golfs and Jettas from
> > 85-92 wuth manual or auto gearboxes and petrol or diesel engines.
> Strangely
> > enough I had an 87 Golf and replaced that exact mount years ago and never
> > made the connection (duh!). To be fair I think it was before I owned my
> > 2000TC.
> >
> > Linky: http://www.partsplaceinc.com/products/p ... 2&sku=9216
> > simmosimkins
> > Member
> > Jul 21, 2013#27
> > FULL MARKS TO DEMETRIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > THIS IS A SPOT ON MODIFICATION
> >
> > DISADVANTAGES ........................ no ,sorry, stuck on that one!
> >
> > ADVANTAGES
> >
> > 1 Cheap parts to buy (?30 a pair delivered)
> > 2 Very easy to fit
> > 3 Once done much easier to fit and remove (no need to lock the awkward to
> > reach bottom engine mount nut whilts undoing the top one) Mod has
> threaded
> > insert- one top bolt only.
> > 4 You cant get the origionals and
> > 5 Why would you want to , these mounts are far superior (in my opinion)
> > 6 No engine noise/vibration transmission, if it were not for my sports
> > stainless it would be very hard to tell if the engine is still running at
> > the lights!
> >
> > THERE IS NO REASON WHATSOEVER NOT TO DO THIS, TREAT YOURSELVES!!!!!!!
> >
> > BIG THANKS AGAIN TO DEMETRIS
> > Brian-Northampton
> > Administrator
> > Jul 21, 2013#28
> > Looking forward to all those benefits .......
> >
> > Just got to put the exhaust back and the inlet manifold, then it's time
> > for a test drive!
> > Barten
> > Barten
> > Active Member
> > Jul 22, 2013#29
> > Very good new for "smoothing" the four cylinder cars it seems. Well done
> > Demetris! I am just wondering if these mount can be used on a 1965 2000
> > also? If thats the case I better order 2 for the future restoration.
> > regards, Barten
> > Demetris
> > Demetris
> > Well-Known Member
> > Jul 23, 2013#30
> > Thanks, i think that i was just lucky to spot the compatibility.
> >
> > Barten, i don't see why these mountings could not be fitted into an early
> > car. As far as i know the design of the 4 cyl mounting did not change
> > through the years.
> > The Rovering Member
> > The Rovering Member
> > Well-Known Member
> > Jul 23, 2013#31
> > I'll be investing in a pair of these for Bruiser too. Nice investigative
> > work.
> > suffolkpete
> > suffolkpete
> > Member
> > Oct 30, 2013#32
> > I've just done the same job on my 2200SC. I obtained my mounts from GSF.
> I
> > found that I had to remove the exhaust manifold to gain access to the
> > left-hand mounting and 65mm was too long as the bolts bottomed. Also the
> > unthreaded shank of the bolt was too long. Perhaps setscrews should be
> used
> > instead. I have to say, though, that I haven't experienced the same
> > improvement that others have. The vibration is very harsh when first
> > started from cold, although it gets better as the engine warms up,
> > presumably the rubber is more compliant when it's warm, but even then
> it's
> > no better than the originals.
> >
> >
> > -----Messaggio originale-----
> > Da: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> Per conto di Tom Rymes via
> > Rovernet
> > Inviato: gioved? 6 agosto 2020 12:03
> > A: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > Cc: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> > Oggetto: Re: [Rovernet] "I'll take Rover parts for $200, Alex"
> >
> > Lance,
> >
> > If they?re like my car, press the disc in and the headrest slides back
> and
> > forth.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > > On Aug 6, 2020, at 12:30 AM, LANCE LA CERTE PSY D via Rovernet <
> > rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?My car: '70 3500S NADA
> > >
> > > I was just gifted a NOS "Passenger's grab handle complete", Optional
> > Equipment # 366837 for "cars numbered in the range 425-428 only".
> > >
> > > It comes complete with mounting hardware (nuts and washers). Does
> > anyone have any idea where and how this was to be mounted, have any
> photos,
> > and any recommendations?
> > >
> > > Additionally, I also received a pair of the "ET" headrests in excellent
> > condition. I can see what appears to be a hinged/cantilevered mechanism
> > inside, as well as the chrome disc/button on the side, but have no idea
> how
> > this mechanism works for apparent adjustment.
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