[Rovernet] R: R: R: - Rover P5 mark III 3.0 automatic info
Glen R Wilson
gwilson at quakertech.net
Tue Dec 1 12:36:12 EST 2020
I have extremely limited experience with P5s, but the one experience I
did have is that you should take the factory jack that came with the car
and raise it up as if you were going to change the tire. Your car sounds
solid, but the one I tried to jack up looked perfectly solid also, and
it crumpled like tin foil. Simple test to confirm one basic structural
aspect of the car.
On 12/1/20 12:01 PM, Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS) via Rovernet wrote:
>
> Thanks Alan!
>
> I’ll think about.
>
> Best regards
>
> *Da:*Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> *Per conto di *Alan
> Francis via Rovernet
> *Inviato:* martedì 1 dicembre 2020 17:56
> *A:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> *Cc:* Alan Francis <partviking1 at gmail.com>
> *Oggetto:* Re: [Rovernet] R: R: - Rover P5 mark III 3.0 automatic info
>
> Gianluca
>
> As with so many things in life it is down to personal choice but as a
> generalisation I can offer the following:
>
> The Mk III P5 is generally the most desirable of the six cylinder P5's
> as it had the V8 interior, B.W. Type 35 gearbox and several other
> options David Bache styled in ready commonality between it and the new
> P6, the seats being the main one although they are of course
> different seats but similar styling.
>
> Saloons are always cheaper than Coupes as the Coupes are regarded as
> more desirable. Good well sorted Mk III Coupes are getting to £10,000+
> in the UK with exceptional examples asking £14,000 but asking doesn't
> mean they're getting it.
>
> You'd struggle to get anywhere near that price for a saloon and for
> what I could see from the video I would estimate around £4000 - £6000
> as is with perhaps £7000 - £9000 if it was well sorted but it would
> probably cost you £10,000+ to get it there!
>
> Just my opinion, others may disagree but you could do the urgent items
> and list it as it is on Car & Classic for nothing and see what
> response you get for a more accurate idea.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Alan
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 4:16 PM Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS) via Rovernet
> <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear friends,
>
> Excuse me for the delay.
>
> I went to see the P5.
>
> The car is in two tone of green, needs a complete respray but
> looks rust free ( also at the base of the windshield) and very sound.
>
> I could not put the car on the bridge so I looked at the bottom
> with a torch and a mirror.
>
> Everything looks normally rusted but no visible holes, also in the
> rear arches.
>
> The rear springs are still partially covered with the original
> paper, the rear valance looks sound and clean.
>
> Interior is in very reasonable conditions, the rare third series
> metal profiles are all in place and dashboard looks quite good.
>
> When raining some drops of water fall on the bottom on the feet of
> the driver but every single seal needs to be changed – apart
> windshield and rear window - so this is probably the reason.
>
> Automatic gear seem to work properly, I’ll have to check the fluid.
>
> The engine starts on the button, no rattles, starter motor is a
> bit noisy and we had to hit it but it can be repaired.
>
> Weslake head, the smoke looks ok. Brakes do not work.
>
> The car was bought in GB a lot of time ago by an important antique
> dealer who had an important shop in the center of Rome, so it is a
> RHD. It seems to have covered 100.000 miles from new and original
> Italian documents ( 1978) should be available in the house of the
> former owner, now past. The seller is a relative of him who has
> had the car in the past 10 years using it very little and now
> would like to sell for family reasons.
>
> The car looks in good shape and easily restorable, the only thing
> it is not very valuable in Italy because of RHD.
>
> I am quite uncertain, I’ d like to know which could be the price
> of such a restored P5 in GB for example.
>
> Thanks for your kind advices and best regards.
>
> Ciao, Gianluca
>
> *Da:*Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *Per conto di *Lloyd
> Legrow via Rovernet
> *Inviato:* sabato 14 novembre 2020 02:42
> *A:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>; 'Rovernet' <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>; 'Derek Bowers'
> <dbowers.wb at gmail.com <mailto:dbowers.wb at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* Lloyd Legrow <lrlegrow at vaxxine.com
> <mailto:lrlegrow at vaxxine.com>>
> *Oggetto:* Re: [Rovernet] R: - Rover P5 mark III 3.0 automatic info
>
> Presently own a P5. Frame usually solid, watch front end mountings
> ... Re-
>
> arched rear springs to bring it level .. most serious problem is
> leaking
>
> auto fluid ... had new seal installed but still top up and check
> before each trip.
>
> Lloyd LeGrow lrlegrow at vaxxine.com <mailto:lrlegrow at vaxxine.com>
>
> ------ Original Message ------
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> From: "geffandjulie--- via Rovernet" <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
>
> To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>; "'Derek Bowers'"
> <dbowers.wb at gmail.com <mailto:dbowers.wb at gmail.com>>
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> Cc: geffandjulie at comcast.net <mailto:geffandjulie at comcast.net>
>
> Sent: 2020-11-13 8:16:24 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] R: - Rover P5 mark III 3.0 automatic info
>
> Yes all steel unibody, with removable sub-frame for engine,
> leaf spring torsion bars, and transmission. The later P6
> reverted to some aluminium: boot and bonnet. And engine!!
>
> Geoffrey W. McCarthy MD MBA DipAvMed
>
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
>
> Portland OR 97210
>
> 503-241-8468 (h)
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> 503-799-3809 (m)
>
> *From:*Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *On Behalf Of *Roland
> Young via Rovernet
> *Sent:* 13 November 2020 16:49
> *To:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>; Derek Bowers
> <dbowers.wb at gmail.com <mailto:dbowers.wb at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* Roland Young <veetwinrider at yahoo.com
> <mailto:veetwinrider at yahoo.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] R: - Rover P5 mark III 3.0 automatic
> info
>
> Hi Derek. I believe the P5 is different being their first
> unibody. I could be wrong as I sold the car many years ago.
>
> Roland
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020, 4:46:24 PM PST, Derek Bowers
> <dbowers.wb at gmail.com <mailto:dbowers.wb at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Be sure to checknout your chassis. I have a 56 p4 but Rover
> put batting in their box frame (at least in the 50's). This
> resulted in if you had any moisure get in it soaked it up like
> a sponge and rotted from the inside out. I new of some severe
> rot I new I would need to get repaired but once I had it sand
> blasted found out how bad it really was.
>
> Now I'm in a fix trying to locate a replacement. Being in
> Canada makes it that much more difficult to source out.
>
> Hope yours is in decent condition and all the best on your
> project!
>
> Derek
>
> On Fri., Nov. 13, 2020, 7:37 p.m. Roland Young via Rovernet,
> <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
>
> If I recall correctly, rust prone around the rear wheel
> arches and under the front windscreen areas. Depending on
> the location of the car, I'd imagine also the same places
> as a 10 year old Chevy. My 1960 had very little rust
> through since it spent a lot of time in Southern
> California. every soft bit was sunbaked and rotted though.
>
> Roland
>
> On Friday, November 13, 2020, 1:05:09 PM PST, Tom Rymes
> via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
>
> Gianluca,
>
> As with all cars, corrosion is a really big issue. I can't
> say where to
> really look, but I bet there's a buying guide or 7
> available online?
>
> Tom
>
> On 11/13/2020 6:49 AM, Ruotolo Gianluca (G&M CS) via
> Rovernet wrote:
> > Dear friend,
> > hope you' re well.
> > I know some of us are p5 fans, so I'll ask you some infos.
> > I found a Rover p5 mk III for sale, what will I have to
> check in particular in your opinion?
> > It is a 1967 mk III two tone green.
> >
> > ROVER P5 Mark III 3.0 LITRE, 1967
> > RHD, automatic gearbox
> >
> > Autovettura funzionante ma DA RESTAURARE.
> > Eseguiti nel tempo alcuni lavori:
> > - servo assisted steering rebuilt;
> > - petrol pump rebuilt;
> > - new tyres;
> > The car needs new brakes and needs to be repainted, but
> should be very solid.
> > Interior in average conditions.
> >
> > Here some videos.
> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyLqaRQ_67U&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3PpKPtsjZ5QlHTROHqTTYVUcS8BzGEzearWUFZGc09loSbYI1tH9F9ndQ
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> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyLqaRQ_67U&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR3PpKPtsjZ5QlHTROHqTTYVUcS8BzGEzearWUFZGc09loSbYI1tH9F9ndQ
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> >
> >
> >
> > Best regards and thanks in advance!
> >
> > Ciao, hear you soon, Gianluca.
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