[Rovernet] Starter for 2000TC

Tom Rymes tom at rymes.net
Mon Mar 21 22:36:13 EDT 2022


For what it's worth, I gave up on my original starter and bought a 
gear-reduction unit. I normally hate the gear-reduction units, but after 
a second rebuild of the original still resulted in iffy performance, I 
bought one from WOSP and have loved it ever since.

I normally hesitate to fit a gear-reduction unit to any other classic, 
but I've been super-happy with this one. Perhaps it's because the 2000TC 
is high compression, but it seems to make a really big difference.

I reached out to their US arm at info at wosperformance.com and I think 
they had it shipped the same day. Their website is 
https://www.wosperformance.co.uk/

Tom

On 03/21/2022 8:23 PM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet wrote:
> *Place is having a hard time coming up with a starter that fits my 71 
> 2000TC.  They sent two so far.*
> 
> **
> 
> *They’re supplying a brand new one, but the Allen nuts on the plate 
> aren’t fitting into the hole of the bell housing.*
> 
> **
> 
> *Anybody have any one, or at least has the Lucas number?  Mine appears 
> to the original to the car, but the numbers are hard to make out after a 
> number of rebuilds apparently.*
> 
> **
> 
> *Bob *
> 
> **
> 
> **
> 
> *From:* Robert Ruggeri
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:58 PM
> *To:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> *Subject:* Starter for 2000TC
> 
> *Hi all:*
> 
> **
> 
> *Ignition key nightmare was solved;  Garrett Bourque provided a new one.*
> 
> **
> 
> *Starter is not working right so I’m sourcing one from Classic Car 
> Performance (formerly British Starters.com) in nearby Saratoga 
> Springs.   They originally were going to build me a new one, but decided 
> to supply a new one for a Land Rover (from the 50-70 series) which they 
> claim is identical.  Does anyone know if that’s correct?  Are they 
> exactly the same?*
> 
> **
> 
> *Bob *
> 
> **
> 
> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> 
> *Attorney-at-Law*
> 
> *1846 Union Street*
> 
> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> 
> *Tel:  518.423.9755*
> 
> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> 
> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>_*
> 
> **
> 
> *From:* Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org 
> <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *On Behalf Of *Robert Ruggeri 
> via Rovernet
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:28 PM
> *To:* pierre janusz <pjemail at aol.com <mailto:pjemail at aol.com>>
> *Cc:* robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com 
> <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>; Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org 
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> 
> *Hi Pierre*
> 
> **
> 
> *Thanks for the helpful input.  We’re hoping initially to get a good 
> locksmith here to try to make a key.  (Blanks appear to be available in 
> the US). Long shot but worth trying.   Without the codes, I’m not sure 
> how they proceed, frankly, but ….*
> 
> **
> 
> *Short of that, it’ll have to be the entire locking assembly (which 
> someone here can supply NOS). My concern is finding someone to do a 
> competent job replacing it.*
> 
> **
> 
> *As for my apparent – and uncharacteristic - lack of anger, it’s simply 
> a function of exhaustion with mechanics in this area (upstate NY).   As 
> for British cars, I also have a Mark 10 and a Range Rover Classic.  Over 
> the years we’ve now lost an entire generation of competent foreign 
> classic car mechanics.  There is a renowned Jag mechanic not too far 
> away; he took good care of my Mark 10 over the decades but his son is 
> not nearly as careful.   The torch is not being passed, I’m afraid.  For 
> those, like myself, who are not mechanics, this is becoming a real labor 
> of love.  (But I am an attorney and can assure you that my interests are 
> not being ignored in this particular matter). *
> 
> **
> 
> *I also have 6 Peugeots and they, too, are a real struggle to keep on 
> the road in the US.   There’s a superb shop, a former dealer, in 
> Burlington VT, 200 miles away, and they take care of the Peugeots, the 
> Rangie, and they overhauled the P6.   I may have to truck it back to 
> them for the lock assembly job before this is over…. *
> 
> **
> 
> */_Bon courage_/**with the isolation.   Thanks again*
> 
> **
> 
> *Bob *
> 
> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> 
> *1846 Union Street*
> 
> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> 
> *Tel:  518.423.9755*
> 
> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> 
> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>_*
> 
> **
> 
> *From:* Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org 
> <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *On Behalf Of *pierre janusz via 
> Rovernet
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:49 AM
> *To:* rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>
> *Cc:* pierre janusz <pjemail at aol.com <mailto:pjemail at aol.com>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> 
> I have been following this thread without intervening because I hoped 
> that someone in N. America would be able to help you with what you need, 
> but so far that does not seem to have happened. I live in the UK.
> 
> I think you will have a real problem getting the key reproduced without 
> one which can be copied. I have a similar problem here in the UK where I 
> have lost the key to a car with a column lock, and my attempts through 
> British Motor Heritage to get the necessary information foundered 
> because they don't appear to have this sort of information for Rovers 
> (although it would appear that it might be available for other marques).
> 
> I suspect that as others have already told you, the only solution is a 
> new steering column lock assembly (although you will be able to re-use 
> the electrical component if you just buy the lock part). I have a LHD 
> assembly as used on European series 2 cars, but I do not know if it is 
> the same as used on the Federal models, which might be the same as on 
> the 3500S Auto. I did have some 3500S Auto ones, but I believe that I 
> have now sold them all, but I can have a look. However, at the moment I 
> have been stranded in France after a skiing holiday because I tested 
> positive for Covid (although I have had all three injections), and the 
> dear French want me to self isolate here for 10 days (several of which 
> have now passed).
> 
> I am surprised at how little anger you appear to be displaying towards 
> your mechanic who is the root cause of all this problem, having been 
> extremely careless with your property. It would be my advice that you 
> just buy a lock assembly and tell him he will have to pay all associated 
> costs and fit it free of charge.
> 
> Pierre Janusz
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org 
> <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> CC: Robert Ruggeri <robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com 
> <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>>
> Sent: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 2:42
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> 
> Thanks for all the good ideas. I'll follow up on that one also.
> 
> Bob
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> *From:*Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org 
> <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> on behalf of Tom Rymes via 
> Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 29, 2021 7:38:12 PM
> *To:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> *Cc:* Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net <mailto:tom at rymes.net>>
> *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> 
> Could the key number be obtained via a heritage certificate, or 
> otherwise, and the buyer the right key from http://britishcarkeys.com 
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> 
>     On Dec 29, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
>     <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Hi All
> 
>     I’ve got Bob fixed up so he should be getting the rovernet again,
>     and here’s the update. It’s confirmed that he has locking steering.
> 
>     So the long story is he needs: key blanks or a used column lock with
>     keys or (dreaming) a new assembly. Part number in 1974 was 620179,
>     2200 used the same appearing assembly but with part number 620264.
> 
>     The lock should use a single sided key as far as a blank goes. A
>     company called Clark & Clark in Michigan makes blanks for the
>     correct era of BL cars, but that doesn't mean they make the right
>     one for Bob’s early A suffix car.
> 
>     Even better would be the body shop finding the key, I’ve still got
>     my fingers crossed for Bob on that.
> 
>     Yours
> 
>     Vern
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