[Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 10, Issue 13
Kellogg, Charles
charlesk at darebritannia.com
Thu Mar 20 18:37:01 EDT 2014
Also have an almost-new Range Rover 3rd seat f.s.
Charles Kellogg
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> 1. Re: Rare bits wanted (louatlcf at aol.com)
> 2. Re: Rare bits wanted (Vern Klukas)
> 3. Re: Rare bits wanted (louatlcf at aol.com)
> 4. Re: Rare bits wanted (Kent Kinard)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:38:53 -0400 (EDT)
> From: louatlcf at aol.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
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>
> Hi:
>
> Being at least the third owner of my 1966 Rover 2000TC (suffix A) I don't
> know if the car came with Rostyles or not, however, I know the hubs can
> have two different size studs. My car has the larger stud size and is the
> last model using the Dunlop calipers and the only model that has the 7 inch
> Servo used on Girling equipped cars I read this was done only for a few of
> the early cars like mine. The five bolt pattern I measured has a 4.75 inch
> bolt circle diameter of 4.75 inch. The spare in the boot is mounted on a
> Rostyle wheel as well. I know what a Magstar looks like but not the Magnum
> is the Magnum similar to the Rostyle? If they look the same what is the
> difference? Please educate me.
>
>
> Lou
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Francis <partviking1 at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 11:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
>
>
> >From personal experience I can testify that Rostyles will not fit a car
> with Dunlop brakes as there is insufficient room to allow the wheel to seat
> on the hub before hitting the outside caliper pod.
>
> Alan Francis (partviking)
>
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Lou
> >
> > Your car undoubtedly didn't come with Rostyles originally. They quite
> > possibly were installed by a dealer after the Rostyles became available,
> or
> > perhaps just later on in the car's life. Are you certain they aren't
> > actually Magnums? Have you tried putting a steel wheel on?
> >
> > The September 1966 service newsletter is the first mention of Magnum
> > wheels, warning that tires chains cannot be fitted to NADA cars so
> > equipped. The same month Rover issued special newsletter introducing the
> TC
> > & Automatic. Magnum wheels are not mentioned, but then wheels period
> aren't
> > mentioned.
> >
> > I have a late 67 North American sales brochure that lists "Mag-styled"
> > wheels as an option, as well as the Magstar wheel. Elsewhere they refer
> to
> > the wheel as Ro-style. But this is late for your car, which must be an A
> > suffix to be Dunlop braked.
> >
> > In the June 1968 newsletter, Rover lists the parts needed to convert a
> > steel wheeled car to Rostyles, along with the note that only Girling
> braked
> > cars can be converted (leading back to my wondering if you don't have
> > Magnum wheels)
> >
> > I have some more material somewhere on the Magnum/Rostyle deal, just have
> > to find it.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, LouatLCF at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a 1966 Rover 2000TC equipped with Dunlop brakes and a single 7
> > inch servo one of the first imported and I have Rostyle wheels. See
> > attached Pics. I didn't think there were an earlier version, if so must
> be
> > rarer than my car.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: scott kohl <sdkgt6 at yahoo.com>
> > > To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > > Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> > >
> > >
> > > The story I have, that I have seen recounted on sites from both sides
> of
> > the
> > > Atlantic, is that when the TC came out in late '65, Rover wanted to
> > offer a
> > > sporty wheel option for the US cars, but Rostyle did not have a wheel
> > with the 5
> > > on 5 pattern, so they made a deal with Magnum in the US to use their
> > wheels.
> > > The pattern closest to 5 on 5 was the GM 5 on 4.75, so when a US TC was
> > ordered
> > > with Magnums, the front and rear hubs were machined just for each car.
> > This
> > > changed sometime during 1967 when 5 on 5 Rostyles came on line, it
> > appears no
> > > one knows exactly when. Your '67 will have 5 on 5 hubs. I have read
> > posts on
> > > the Classic Rover Forum from a gentleman in CA who hads an early TC
> with
> > the
> > > Magnums. He also has a set of Magstars, and has stated that he has to
> > swap the
> > > hubs to make the wheel change, and he was going to have to make a
> > decision about
> > > which to use permanently because he was tired of doing so much work.
> > That is
> > > what makes these hubs so
> > > damn hard to find, they were on less that a years' worth of cars, and
> > only cars
> > > ordered with Magnums. There is a thread on the Rover site comparing
> > pictures of
> > > Magnums and Rostyles in Rover's own sales brochures, and you can see
> the
> > gap
> > > between the wheelnut and center is different. At least one of the
> > Magnum fitted
> > > cars was re-imported to the UK, the chap who brought it in attested to
> > the
> > > difference. He said his finger didn't fit inside the nut on the
> Magnum,
> > it did
> > > easily with the Rostyle. If you're curious I can look up and cite the
> > web
> > > addresses to the pages discussing this issue.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> > > Ah... Scott... they're all the same hubs. On my '67 2000TC, that came
> > with
> > > Magstar wheels, I've run Rostyles and SD1 wheels. Having owned this
> > car, and
> > > several others, for just short of 44 years I've never seen a different
> > spec hub
> > > or wheel. Have another look.
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > On Sun, 3/16/14, gjkzscruggs at verizon.net <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
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> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:02:44 -0700
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
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> Bingo! My friend, you have Magnum wheels. They look all but identical to
> the Rostyles. One last question: is your tachometer & clock in a single
> housing to the right of the speedo, or is the clock and tach in separate
> housings, with the tach housing looking a bit pedestrian? If they are
> separate you do indeed have a very early car.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:38 AM, louatlcf at aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Being at least the third owner of my 1966 Rover 2000TC (suffix A) I
> don't know if the car came with Rostyles or not, however, I know the hubs
> can have two different size studs. My car has the larger stud size and is
> the last model using the Dunlop calipers and the only model that has the 7
> inch Servo used on Girling equipped cars I read this was done only for a
> few of the early cars like mine. The five bolt pattern I measured has a
> 4.75 inch bolt circle diameter of 4.75 inch. The spare in the boot is
> mounted on a Rostyle wheel as well. I know what a Magstar looks like but
> not the Magnum is the Magnum similar to the Rostyle? If they look the same
> what is the difference? Please educate me.
> >
> >
> > Lou
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Francis <partviking1 at gmail.com>
> > To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 11:52 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >
> >
> > From personal experience I can testify that Rostyles will not fit a car
> > with Dunlop brakes as there is insufficient room to allow the wheel to
> seat
> > on the hub before hitting the outside caliper pod.
> >
> > Alan Francis (partviking)
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 18, 2014, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lou
> >>
> >> Your car undoubtedly didn't come with Rostyles originally. They quite
> >> possibly were installed by a dealer after the Rostyles became
> available, or
> >> perhaps just later on in the car's life. Are you certain they aren't
> >> actually Magnums? Have you tried putting a steel wheel on?
> >>
> >> The September 1966 service newsletter is the first mention of Magnum
> >> wheels, warning that tires chains cannot be fitted to NADA cars so
> >> equipped. The same month Rover issued special newsletter introducing
> the TC
> >> & Automatic. Magnum wheels are not mentioned, but then wheels period
> aren't
> >> mentioned.
> >>
> >> I have a late 67 North American sales brochure that lists "Mag-styled"
> >> wheels as an option, as well as the Magstar wheel. Elsewhere they refer
> to
> >> the wheel as Ro-style. But this is late for your car, which must be an A
> >> suffix to be Dunlop braked.
> >>
> >> In the June 1968 newsletter, Rover lists the parts needed to convert a
> >> steel wheeled car to Rostyles, along with the note that only Girling
> braked
> >> cars can be converted (leading back to my wondering if you don't have
> >> Magnum wheels)
> >>
> >> I have some more material somewhere on the Magnum/Rostyle deal, just
> have
> >> to find it.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, LouatLCF at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a 1966 Rover 2000TC equipped with Dunlop brakes and a single 7
> >> inch servo one of the first imported and I have Rostyle wheels. See
> >> attached Pics. I didn't think there were an earlier version, if so must
> be
> >> rarer than my car.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: scott kohl <sdkgt6 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> >>> Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The story I have, that I have seen recounted on sites from both sides
> of
> >> the
> >>> Atlantic, is that when the TC came out in late '65, Rover wanted to
> >> offer a
> >>> sporty wheel option for the US cars, but Rostyle did not have a wheel
> >> with the 5
> >>> on 5 pattern, so they made a deal with Magnum in the US to use their
> >> wheels.
> >>> The pattern closest to 5 on 5 was the GM 5 on 4.75, so when a US TC was
> >> ordered
> >>> with Magnums, the front and rear hubs were machined just for each car.
> >> This
> >>> changed sometime during 1967 when 5 on 5 Rostyles came on line, it
> >> appears no
> >>> one knows exactly when. Your '67 will have 5 on 5 hubs. I have read
> >> posts on
> >>> the Classic Rover Forum from a gentleman in CA who hads an early TC
> with
> >> the
> >>> Magnums. He also has a set of Magstars, and has stated that he has to
> >> swap the
> >>> hubs to make the wheel change, and he was going to have to make a
> >> decision about
> >>> which to use permanently because he was tired of doing so much work.
> >> That is
> >>> what makes these hubs so
> >>> damn hard to find, they were on less that a years' worth of cars, and
> >> only cars
> >>> ordered with Magnums. There is a thread on the Rover site comparing
> >> pictures of
> >>> Magnums and Rostyles in Rover's own sales brochures, and you can see
> the
> >> gap
> >>> between the wheelnut and center is different. At least one of the
> >> Magnum fitted
> >>> cars was re-imported to the UK, the chap who brought it in attested to
> >> the
> >>> difference. He said his finger didn't fit inside the nut on the
> Magnum,
> >> it did
> >>> easily with the Rostyle. If you're curious I can look up and cite the
> >> web
> >>> addresses to the pages discussing this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ah... Scott... they're all the same hubs. On my '67 2000TC, that came
> >> with
> >>> Magstar wheels, I've run Rostyles and SD1 wheels. Having owned this
> >> car, and
> >>> several others, for just short of 44 years I've never seen a different
> >> spec hub
> >>> or wheel. Have another look.
> >>> --------------------------------------------
> >>> On Sun, 3/16/14, gjkzscruggs at verizon.net <gjkzscruggs at verizon.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >>> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> >>> Date: Sunday, March 16, 2014, 10:26 AM
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 13:15:23 -0400 (EDT)
> From: louatlcf at aol.com
> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> Message-ID: <8D111ADF2E4C8E0-B10-3569B at webmail-vd016.sysops.aol.com>
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>
> Hi:
>
> It seems I learn something new about my Rover every day, the clock and
> Tach are in separate housings! I believe this was the 189 th Rover 2000TC
> imported per the vehicle chassis number. Tell me more about the Magnun
> wheels versus the Rostyles are the bolt patterns different?
>
>
> Lou
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 19, 2014 10:02 am
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
>
>
> Bingo! My friend, you have Magnum wheels. They look all but identical to
> the
> Rostyles. One last question: is your tachometer & clock in a single
> housing to
> the right of the speedo, or is the clock and tach in separate housings,
> with the
> tach housing looking a bit pedestrian? If they are separate you do indeed
> have a
> very early car.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 9:38 AM, louatlcf at aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > Being at least the third owner of my 1966 Rover 2000TC (suffix A) I
> don't
> know if the car came with Rostyles or not, however, I know the hubs can
> have two
> different size studs. My car has the larger stud size and is the last model
> using the Dunlop calipers and the only model that has the 7 inch Servo
> used on
> Girling equipped cars I read this was done only for a few of the early
> cars like
> mine. The five bolt pattern I measured has a 4.75 inch bolt circle
> diameter of
> 4.75 inch. The spare in the boot is mounted on a Rostyle wheel as well. I
> know
> what a Magstar looks like but not the Magnum is the Magnum similar to the
> Rostyle? If they look the same what is the difference? Please educate me.
> >
> >
> > Lou
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Francis <partviking1 at gmail.com>
> > To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 11:52 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >
> >
> > From personal experience I can testify that Rostyles will not fit a car
> > with Dunlop brakes as there is insufficient room to allow the wheel to
> seat
> > on the hub before hitting the outside caliper pod.
> >
> > Alan Francis (partviking)
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 18, 2014, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Lou
> >>
> >> Your car undoubtedly didn't come with Rostyles originally. They quite
> >> possibly were installed by a dealer after the Rostyles became
> available, or
> >> perhaps just later on in the car's life. Are you certain they aren't
> >> actually Magnums? Have you tried putting a steel wheel on?
> >>
> >> The September 1966 service newsletter is the first mention of Magnum
> >> wheels, warning that tires chains cannot be fitted to NADA cars so
> >> equipped. The same month Rover issued special newsletter introducing
> the TC
> >> & Automatic. Magnum wheels are not mentioned, but then wheels period
> aren't
> >> mentioned.
> >>
> >> I have a late 67 North American sales brochure that lists "Mag-styled"
> >> wheels as an option, as well as the Magstar wheel. Elsewhere they refer
> to
> >> the wheel as Ro-style. But this is late for your car, which must be an A
> >> suffix to be Dunlop braked.
> >>
> >> In the June 1968 newsletter, Rover lists the parts needed to convert a
> >> steel wheeled car to Rostyles, along with the note that only Girling
> braked
> >> cars can be converted (leading back to my wondering if you don't have
> >> Magnum wheels)
> >>
> >> I have some more material somewhere on the Magnum/Rostyle deal, just
> have
> >> to find it.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, LouatLCF at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a 1966 Rover 2000TC equipped with Dunlop brakes and a single 7
> >> inch servo one of the first imported and I have Rostyle wheels. See
> >> attached Pics. I didn't think there were an earlier version, if so must
> be
> >> rarer than my car.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Lou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: scott kohl <sdkgt6 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> >>> Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The story I have, that I have seen recounted on sites from both sides
> of
> >> the
> >>> Atlantic, is that when the TC came out in late '65, Rover wanted to
> >> offer a
> >>> sporty wheel option for the US cars, but Rostyle did not have a wheel
> >> with the 5
> >>> on 5 pattern, so they made a deal with Magnum in the US to use their
> >> wheels.
> >>> The pattern closest to 5 on 5 was the GM 5 on 4.75, so when a US TC was
> >> ordered
> >>> with Magnums, the front and rear hubs were machined just for each car.
> >> This
> >>> changed sometime during 1967 when 5 on 5 Rostyles came on line, it
> >> appears no
> >>> one knows exactly when. Your '67 will have 5 on 5 hubs. I have read
> >> posts on
> >>> the Classic Rover Forum from a gentleman in CA who hads an early TC
> with
> >> the
> >>> Magnums. He also has a set of Magstars, and has stated that he has to
> >> swap the
> >>> hubs to make the wheel change, and he was going to have to make a
> >> decision about
> >>> which to use permanently because he was tired of doing so much work.
> >> That is
> >>> what makes these hubs so
> >>> damn hard to find, they were on less that a years' worth of cars, and
> >> only cars
> >>> ordered with Magnums. There is a thread on the Rover site comparing
> >> pictures of
> >>> Magnums and Rostyles in Rover's own sales brochures, and you can see
> the
> >> gap
> >>> between the wheelnut and center is different. At least one of the
> >> Magnum fitted
> >>> cars was re-imported to the UK, the chap who brought it in attested to
> >> the
> >>> difference. He said his finger didn't fit inside the nut on the
> Magnum,
> >> it did
> >>> easily with the Rostyle. If you're curious I can look up and cite the
> >> web
> >>> addresses to the pages discussing this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ah... Scott... they're all the same hubs. On my '67 2000TC, that came
> >> with
> >>> Magstar wheels, I've run Rostyles and SD1 wheels. Having owned this
> >> car, and
> >>> several others, for just short of 44 years I've never seen a different
> >> spec hub
> >>> or wheel. Have another look.
> >>> --------------------------------------------
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> From: Kent Kinard <kkinard at att.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
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> Lou,
> If the wheels and hubs are 4.75, they are not Rostyles, they are Magnum
> 500. Easy way to tell the difference: Rostyles are riveted. Magnum
> 500s are welded construction. If your centers are welded to the rims,
> they are Magnum 500. Otherwise, it is difficult to tell the
> difference. They look very much alike from the front side.
> 4.75 inch bolt circle, welded construction, and larger studs mean Magnum
> 500. Congratulations. You have the rare ones.
>
> I have a 66 w. Dunlops, single Girling booster(although I do have a
> Dunlop booster) and later style Tacholmeter installation, but I think it
> came with Magstars. It is a rusty hulk, but now I'm going to have to
> check the bolt circle. It's been in the back pasture for fifteen years
> or more. I like the Dunlop brakes, but setting them up is a special skill.
>
> Roverly,
> Kent K.
>
> louatlcf at aol.com wrote:
> Hi: Being at least the third owner of my 1966 Rover 2000TC (suffix A)
> I don't know if the car came with Rostyles or not, however, I know the
> hubs can have two different size studs. My car has the larger stud size
> and is the last model using the Dunlop calipers and the only model that
> has the 7 inch Servo used on Girling equipped cars I read this was done
> only for a few of the early cars like mine. The five bolt pattern I
> measured has a 4.75 inch bolt circle diameter of 4.75 inch. The spare in
> the boot is mounted on a Rostyle wheel as well. I know what a Magstar
> looks like but not the Magnum is the Magnum similar to the Rostyle? If
> they look the same what is the difference? Please educate me. Lou
> -----Original Message----- From: Alan Francis <partviking1 at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> Sent: Tue, Mar 18, 2014 11:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted >From personal experience I can
> testify that Rostyles will not fit a car with Dunlop brakes as there is
> insufficient room to allow the wheel to seat on the hub before hitting
> the outside caliper pod. Alan Francis (partviking) On Tuesday, March 18,
> 2014, Vern Klukas <vern at inkspotco.com> wrote:
> >> Hi Lou
> >>
> >> Your car undoubtedly didn't come with Rostyles originally. They quite
> >> possibly were installed by a dealer after the Rostyles became
> available, or
> >> perhaps just later on in the car's life. Are you certain they aren't
> >> actually Magnums? Have you tried putting a steel wheel on?
> >>
> >> The September 1966 service newsletter is the first mention of Magnum
> >> wheels, warning that tires chains cannot be fitted to NADA cars so
> >> equipped. The same month Rover issued special newsletter introducing
> the TC
> >> & Automatic. Magnum wheels are not mentioned, but then wheels period
> aren't
> >> mentioned.
> >>
> >> I have a late 67 North American sales brochure that lists "Mag-styled"
> >> wheels as an option, as well as the Magstar wheel. Elsewhere they refer
> to
> >> the wheel as Ro-style. But this is late for your car, which must be an A
> >> suffix to be Dunlop braked.
> >>
> >> In the June 1968 newsletter, Rover lists the parts needed to convert a
> >> steel wheeled car to Rostyles, along with the note that only Girling
> braked
> >> cars can be converted (leading back to my wondering if you don't have
> >> Magnum wheels)
> >>
> >> I have some more material somewhere on the Magnum/Rostyle deal, just
> have
> >> to find it.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mar 16, 2014, at 4:58 PM, LouatLCF at aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I have a 1966 Rover 2000TC equipped with Dunlop brakes and a single 7
> >> inch servo one of the first imported and I have Rostyle wheels. See
> >> attached Pics. I didn't think there were an earlier version, if so must
> be
> >> rarer than my car.
> >>>
> >>> Lou
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: scott kohl <sdkgt6 at yahoo.com>
> >>> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> >>> Sent: Sun, Mar 16, 2014 12:25 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Rare bits wanted
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The story I have, that I have seen recounted on sites from both sides
> of
> >> the
> >>> Atlantic, is that when the TC came out in late '65, Rover wanted to
> >> offer a
> >>> sporty wheel option for the US cars, but Rostyle did not have a wheel
> >> with the 5
> >>> on 5 pattern, so they made a deal with Magnum in the US to use their
> >> wheels.
> >>> The pattern closest to 5 on 5 was the GM 5 on 4.75, so when a US TC was
> >> ordered
> >>> with Magnums, the front and rear hubs were machined just for each car.
> >> This
> >>> changed sometime during 1967 when 5 on 5 Rostyles came on line, it
> >> appears no
> >>> one knows exactly when. Your '67 will have 5 on 5 hubs. I have read
> >> posts on
> >>> the Classic Rover Forum from a gentleman in CA who hads an early TC
> with
> >> the
> >>> Magnums. He also has a set of Magstars, and has stated that he has to
> >> swap the
> >>> hubs to make the wheel change, and he was going to have to make a
> >> decision about
> >>> which to use permanently because he was tired of doing so much work.
> >> That is
> >>> what makes these hubs so
> >>> damn hard to find, they were on less that a years' worth of cars, and
> >> only cars
> >>> ordered with Magnums. There is a thread on the Rover site comparing
> >> pictures of
> >>> Magnums and Rostyles in Rover's own sales brochures, and you can see
> the
> >> gap
> >>> between the wheelnut and center is different. At least one of the
> >> Magnum fitted
> >>> cars was re-imported to the UK, the chap who brought it in attested to
> >> the
> >>> difference. He said his finger didn't fit inside the nut on the
> Magnum,
> >> it did
> >>> easily with the Rostyle. If you're curious I can look up and cite the
> >> web
> >>> addresses to the pages discussing this issue.
> >>>
> >>> Scott
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ah... Scott... they're all the same hubs. On my '67 2000TC, that came
> >> with
> >>> Magstar wheels, I've run Rostyles and SD1 wheels. Having owned this
> >> car, and
> >>> several others, for just short of 44 years I've never seen a different
> >> spec hub
> >>> or wheel. Have another look.
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