[Rovernet] Lance's wiring Rovernet Digest, Vol 75, Issue 13 [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]
LANCE LA CERTE PSY D
lacpsyd6 at msn.com
Thu Aug 15 09:52:14 EDT 2019
Thanks to all for the continuing support regarding the headlights/blown fuses. A special shout out to Michael for the excellent, detailed recommendations. I've checked the continuity of the hi/low beam switch and just finished confirming that all of the wiring directly behind the headlights is proper. I will dive into the fuse box itself and the the steering column switches. Given my neanderthal skill set with electricity, I'm still amazed that both the main and dip beams work together when the main beam switch is engaged but there are no dip beams at all when the main beam switch (the one on the floor) is disengaged (this is when the fuse blows repeatedly for the dip beam)??????
Lance
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
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Flying Spaghetti Monster Disciple
"In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one class of citizens to give to another. " Voltaire, 1694-1778
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The headlight wiring varies quite a bit between models, the '68 manual has the diagram for the NADA cars. The high and low beams on the 12 fuse cars are completely separate for most of their run hence high beam works when low beam won't. there are no relays in the system so if youhave upped the wattage of the bulbs significantly you can overheat various bits, the main things to check are the fusebox terminals (they aren't a true clip in fuse holder, they are left and right side blades held apart by plastic), Then pull all the excess wire out from behind the lights themselves and check its all plugged in properly. Then check the steering columns switches. The current flows through rivets in these and they can corrode up or the insulator breaks ( me thinks this is probably it given the symptoms). Taking the steering wheel off is worth the effort to do this task properly. If they are stuffed I've got spares. Finally check that both charging wires from the alternator are plugged into the Alternator. Some Mechanics will leave one off floating around and it can short to lots of things.
Michael Coombs
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1. Fuses redux (LANCE LA CERTE PSY D)
2. Re: Fuses redux (Ben Saunders)
3. Re: Blown fuses, need electrical help (Gord Reddy)
4. Re: Blown fuses, need electrical help
(Roger Matheson Bigpond Account)
5. Olds 215 Rover 3500 set of aluminum heads 4-bbl intake valve
covers - auto parts - by owner - vehicle automotive sale
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6. ROVER P6 RADIO DELETE PLATE - auto parts - by owner - vehicle
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7. Re: ROVER P6 RADIO DELETE PLATE - auto parts - by owner -
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Thanks to all who responded to the blown fuse issue. Good information to know. Unfortunately, I've been running these same fuses for years; that's not the issue. What I would appreciate some help with is trying to source/diagnose where the problem might be relative to the lights themselves, the wiring harness etc.
Thanks, L
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
Global Operations Director
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Most of the time the problem is with the wires themselves in that the British do not tin their wires and thus they corrode over the years and this causes resistance as well as corroded terminals making the threshold far too marginal and making the fuses fail. The best option would be to find an old harness and buy new wires in the same color and weight to make a new harness. A bit of work but you will sleep better.
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> Thanks to all who responded to the blown fuse issue. Good information to know. Unfortunately, I've been running these same fuses for years; that's not the issue. What I would appreciate some help with is trying to source/diagnose where the problem might be relative to the lights themselves, the wiring harness etc.
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> Thanks, L
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> Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
> Global Operations Director
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 21:44:42 -0700
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Lance,
How long did you drive before engaging the brights?
Gordon Reddy, WACG
Inventor of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Swatter
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'70 3500s w/o AC. Had headlight wiring sorted out a couple of years
ago by competent mechanic but I didn't have the opportunity to drive the car
@ night until yesterday. Once I began driving with lights on I decided to
engage the brights. When I subsequently disengaged the brights I had no lights what so ever. Switched back to brights which lasted a couple minutes and then all headlights went dark (running lights, brake lights, etc., all
remained operational). At home I replaced the blown fuse on "Headlamp
RH Dip"---it blew repeatedly, but for some unexplained reason if I left the fuse out altogether, I had all four lights on if I engaged the highbeam switch.
Any help in running down this problem would be appreciated.
Lance
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
Global Operations Director
Apatheists Intl.
Flying Spaghetti Monster Disciple
"In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as
possible from one class of citizens to give to another. " Voltaire,
1694-1778
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Hi Lance,
Have you checked the correct operation of the high beam low beam switch.
It might pay to remove it and carefully examine for wear/dirt etc that may be interfering with the contacts and earth. If you have a circuit diagram you may be able to test each circuit after disconnecting the harness from the switch. A broken fuse implies a short circuit somewhere and this procedure may clarify which one. Lucas "The Prince of Darkness".
Cheers from Roger in Oz
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Lance,
How long did you drive before engaging the brights?
Gordon Reddy, WACG
Inventor of the Flying Spaghetti Monster Swatter
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Subject: [Rovernet] Blown fuses, need electrical help
'70 3500s w/o AC. Had headlight wiring sorted out a couple of
years ago by competent mechanic but I didn't have the opportunity to
drive the car @ night until yesterday. Once I began driving with
lights on I decided to engage the brights. When I subsequently disengaged the brights I had no lights what so ever. Switched back to brights which lasted a couple minutes and then all headlights went dark
(running lights, brake lights, etc., all remained operational). At
home I replaced the blown fuse on "Headlamp RH Dip"---it blew repeatedly, but for some unexplained reason if I left the fuse out altogether, I had all four lights on if I engaged the highbeam switch.
Any help in running down this problem would be appreciated.
Lance
Lance La Certe, Psy.D.
Global Operations Director
Apatheists Intl.
Flying Spaghetti Monster Disciple
"In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as
possible from one class of citizens to give to another. " Voltaire,
1694-1778
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:08:23 -0700
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Subject: [Rovernet] Olds 215 Rover 3500 set of aluminum heads 4-bbl
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 00:09:22 -0700
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Subject: [Rovernet] ROVER P6 RADIO DELETE PLATE - auto parts - by
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 08:10:56 -0400
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You need to keep the radio cause it was put there to drown out the noises of the engine when it is coming apart.
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