[Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10
Roger Matheson
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Wed Dec 22 04:27:04 EST 2021
Hello from Oz and seasons greetings.
Done the job several times and I have found that these bolts are quite soft and I have successfully drilled a tap hole in the stubs of the bolts and used an “Easy Out” to unscrew the bolts. But overall a complex awkward job, especially repairing the switching and coping with (a likely) worn key. It isn’t too difficult to make a new separate switch for the circuits and I like the idea of a push to start in the cigar lighter. In this way you can preserve the steering lock function.
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Yet another way to get the lock out is to weld a nut onto each of the "breakaway bolt" heads, loosen the "tamper-proof" bolts and then take the lock to a locksmith. There were several different makes of locks so finding the right key may be a challenge but doesn't your lock also lock the steering column?
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1. Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Robert Ruggeri)
2. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Vern Inkspot)
3. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steven Dibdin)
4. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
(Grant, Barry (SNB))
5. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steve Manwell)
6. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steve Manwell)
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Subject: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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Hi All
The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC. It needs a repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key. (No I don?t have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
Anyone have a replacement lock with key? This lock is mounted on the steering column.
Thanks for any help.
Bob
ROBERT E. RUGGERI
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Fax: 518.377.4646
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So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good luck.
Yours
Vern
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC. It needs a repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key. (No I don?t have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
>
> Anyone have a replacement lock with key? This lock is mounted on the steering column.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bob
>
> ROBERT E. RUGGERI
> Attorney-at-Law
> 1846 Union Street
> Niskayuna, NY 12309
> Tel: 518.423.9755
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If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S with column lock.
Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> ?So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
>
> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good luck.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC. It needs a repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key. (No I don?t have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
>>
>> Anyone have a replacement lock with key? This lock is mounted on the steering column.
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> ROBERT E. RUGGERI
>> Attorney-at-Law
>> 1846 Union Street
>> Niskayuna, NY 12309
>> Tel: 518.423.9755
>> Fax: 518.377.4646
>> robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
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If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S with column lock.
Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
?So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good luck.
Yours
Vern
On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
Hi All
The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC. It needs a repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key. (No I don?t have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
Anyone have a replacement lock with key? This lock is mounted on the steering column.
Thanks for any help.
Bob
ROBERT E. RUGGERI
Attorney-at-Law
1846 Union Street
Niskayuna, NY 12309
Tel: 518.423.9755
Fax: 518.377.4646
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:03:53 -0500
From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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Bob,
One thing to add is that the ignition locks on late Federal 2000TCs and
all Federal 3500Ss are specific to LHD cars due to the angle of the
steering column relative to the switch panel.
If you don't find a locksmith or used replacement ignition lock
solution, I believe Pierre Janusz (aka Voking2000 on ebay UK, and he is
here on Rovernet too) had some new ones for LHD P6's.
Steve Manwell
On 12/21/2021 2:12 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet wrote:
> If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S
> with column lock.
>
> Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
>
>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>
>> ? So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then.
>> The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is
>> that it?s held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so
>> it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
>>
>> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good
>> luck.
>>
>> Yours
>> Vern
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet
>>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> *Hi All*
>>> **
>>> *The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.? It needs a
>>> repaint/_but the body shop lost my ignition key._/ (No I don?t have
>>> a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)*
>>> **
>>> *Anyone have a replacement lock with key??? This lock is mounted on
>>> the steering column.*
>>> **
>>> *Thanks for any help.*
>>> **
>>> *Bob*
>>> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
>>> *Attorney-at-Law*
>>> *1846 Union Street*
>>> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
>>> *Tel:? 518.423.9755*
>>> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
>>> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com_*
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Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:32:56 -0500
From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
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Also, the correct key blank is LF4, such as this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193833954599?hash=item2d21676d27:g:jKcAAOSwFOpf8elK
or this:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371499633480?hash=item567f1a8b48:g:APQAAOSwLJZc4tfo
There is a pair on ebay USA; the link looks too long to paste here, but
the item number is 304144749172, "Key Blank - X13 Vintage Vauxhall,
Rover, Bedford CF, Other B/L (set of 2) LF4"
I had a spare key for my 3500S cut from one of these blanks when I was
in the UK one time.? I don't recall if I tried any locksmiths in the US,
but it was no problem in the UK.
Steve
On 12/21/2021 3:03 PM, Steve Manwell via Rovernet wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> One thing to add is that the ignition locks on late Federal 2000TCs
> and all Federal 3500Ss are specific to LHD cars due to the angle of
> the steering column relative to the switch panel.
>
> If you don't find a locksmith or used replacement ignition lock
> solution, I believe Pierre Janusz (aka Voking2000 on ebay UK, and he
> is here on Rovernet too) had some new ones for LHD P6's.
>
> Steve Manwell
>
>
> On 12/21/2021 2:12 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet wrote:
>> If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA
>> 3500S with column lock.
>>
>> Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
>>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> ? So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem
>>> then. The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real
>>> problem is that it?s held onto the steering column with two
>>> breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill
>>> the bolts out.
>>>
>>> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key.
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> Yours
>>> Vern
>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet
>>>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> *Hi All*
>>>> **
>>>> *The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.? It needs
>>>> a repaint/_but the body shop lost my ignition key._/ (No I don?t
>>>> have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)*
>>>> **
>>>> *Anyone have a replacement lock with key??? This lock is mounted on
>>>> the steering column.*
>>>> **
>>>> *Thanks for any help.*
>>>> **
>>>> *Bob*
>>>> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
>>>> *Attorney-at-Law*
>>>> *1846 Union Street*
>>>> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
>>>> *Tel:? 518.423.9755*
>>>> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
>>>> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com_*
>>>> _______________________________________________
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