[Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 101, Issue 10

Kellogg, Charles charlesk at darebritannia.com
Wed Dec 22 03:43:57 EST 2021


Yet another way to get the lock out is to weld a nut onto each of the
"breakaway bolt" heads, loosen the "tamper-proof" bolts and then take the
lock to a locksmith. There were several different makes of locks so finding
the right key may be a challenge but doesn't your lock also lock the
steering column?

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>    1. Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Robert Ruggeri)
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>    3. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steven Dibdin)
>    4. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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>    5. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steve Manwell)
>    6. Re: Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC. (Steve Manwell)
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> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 17:39:51 +0000
> From: Robert Ruggeri <robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>
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> Hi All
>
> The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.  It needs a
> repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key.  (No I don?t have a copy
> since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
>
> Anyone have a replacement lock with key?   This lock is mounted on the
> steering column.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bob
>
> ROBERT E. RUGGERI
> Attorney-at-Law
> 1846 Union Street
> Niskayuna, NY 12309
> Tel:  518.423.9755
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> From: Vern Inkspot <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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> So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The
> entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s
> held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain
> to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
>
> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good luck.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> > On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.  It needs a
> repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key.  (No I don?t have a copy
> since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
> >
> > Anyone have a replacement lock with key?   This lock is mounted on the
> steering column.
> >
> > Thanks for any help.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ROBERT E. RUGGERI
> > Attorney-at-Law
> > 1846 Union Street
> > Niskayuna, NY 12309
> > Tel:  518.423.9755
> > Fax: 518.377.4646
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> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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> If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S
> with column lock.
>
> Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
>
> > On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The
> entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s
> held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain
> to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
> >
> > There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good
> luck.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All
> >>
> >> The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.  It needs a
> repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key.  (No I don?t have a copy
> since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
> >>
> >> Anyone have a replacement lock with key?   This lock is mounted on the
> steering column.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> ROBERT E. RUGGERI
> >> Attorney-at-Law
> >> 1846 Union Street
> >> Niskayuna, NY 12309
> >> Tel:  518.423.9755
> >> Fax: 518.377.4646
> >> robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
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> If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S
> with column lock.
> Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> ?So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then. The
> entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is that it?s
> held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain
> to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
>
> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good luck.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
>
> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.  It needs a
> repaint but the body shop lost my ignition key.  (No I don?t have a copy
> since no one around here could make one reportedly.)
>
> Anyone have a replacement lock with key?   This lock is mounted on the
> steering column.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Bob
>
> ROBERT E. RUGGERI
> Attorney-at-Law
> 1846 Union Street
> Niskayuna, NY 12309
> Tel:  518.423.9755
> Fax: 518.377.4646
> robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com<mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>
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> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:03:53 -0500
> From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
> Message-ID: <9354a649-1069-b8a2-31cb-fbc598024215 at comcast.net>
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> Bob,
>
> One thing to add is that the ignition locks on late Federal 2000TCs and
> all Federal 3500Ss are specific to LHD cars due to the angle of the
> steering column relative to the switch panel.
>
> If you don't find a locksmith or used replacement ignition lock
> solution, I believe Pierre Janusz (aka Voking2000 on ebay UK, and he is
> here on Rovernet too) had some new ones for LHD P6's.
>
> Steve Manwell
>
>
> On 12/21/2021 2:12 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet wrote:
> > If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA 3500S
> > with column lock.
> >
> > Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
> >
> >> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
> >> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ? So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem then.
> >> The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real problem is
> >> that it?s held onto the steering column with two breakaway bolts so
> >> it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill the bolts out.
> >>
> >> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key. Good
> >> luck.
> >>
> >> Yours
> >> Vern
> >>
> >>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet
> >>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> *Hi All*
> >>> **
> >>> *The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.? It needs a
> >>> repaint/_but the body shop lost my ignition key._/ (No I don?t have
> >>> a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)*
> >>> **
> >>> *Anyone have a replacement lock with key??? This lock is mounted on
> >>> the steering column.*
> >>> **
> >>> *Thanks for any help.*
> >>> **
> >>> *Bob*
> >>> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> >>> *Attorney-at-Law*
> >>> *1846 Union Street*
> >>> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> >>> *Tel:? 518.423.9755*
> >>> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> >>> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com_*
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> >> inkspotco.com <http://inkspotco.com>?? 250 864 5619 ? in at inkspotco.com
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> Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:32:56 -0500
> From: Steve Manwell <sman_mail at comcast.net>
> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Need ignition lock for 1970 2000TC.
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> Also, the correct key blank is LF4, such as this:
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193833954599?hash=item2d21676d27:g:jKcAAOSwFOpf8elK
> or this:
>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371499633480?hash=item567f1a8b48:g:APQAAOSwLJZc4tfo
>
> There is a pair on ebay USA; the link looks too long to paste here, but
> the item number is 304144749172, "Key Blank - X13 Vintage Vauxhall,
> Rover, Bedford CF, Other B/L (set of 2) LF4"
>
> I had a spare key for my 3500S cut from one of these blanks when I was
> in the UK one time.? I don't recall if I tried any locksmiths in the US,
> but it was no problem in the UK.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 12/21/2021 3:03 PM, Steve Manwell via Rovernet wrote:
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > One thing to add is that the ignition locks on late Federal 2000TCs
> > and all Federal 3500Ss are specific to LHD cars due to the angle of
> > the steering column relative to the switch panel.
> >
> > If you don't find a locksmith or used replacement ignition lock
> > solution, I believe Pierre Janusz (aka Voking2000 on ebay UK, and he
> > is here on Rovernet too) had some new ones for LHD P6's.
> >
> > Steve Manwell
> >
> >
> > On 12/21/2021 2:12 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet wrote:
> >> If it helps, I believe the ignition lock is the same as the NADA
> >> 3500S with column lock.
> >>
> >> Sent from a small screen, please excuse any typos.
> >>
> >>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 14:00, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
> >>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ? So the car has a steering lock? You?ve got a bit of a problem
> >>> then. The entire assembly was serviced as a unit and the real
> >>> problem is that it?s held onto the steering column with two
> >>> breakaway bolts so it?s a real pain to remove, as you have to drill
> >>> the bolts out.
> >>>
> >>> There must be a locksmith somewhere near you that can cut a key.
> >>> Good luck.
> >>>
> >>> Yours
> >>> Vern
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 21, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet
> >>>> <rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> *Hi All*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *The mechanical work has largely been done on my 2000TC.? It needs
> >>>> a repaint/_but the body shop lost my ignition key._/ (No I don?t
> >>>> have a copy since no one around here could make one reportedly.)*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *Anyone have a replacement lock with key??? This lock is mounted on
> >>>> the steering column.*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *Thanks for any help.*
> >>>> **
> >>>> *Bob*
> >>>> *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> >>>> *Attorney-at-Law*
> >>>> *1846 Union Street*
> >>>> *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> >>>> *Tel:? 518.423.9755*
> >>>> *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> >>>> *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com_*
> >>>> _______________________________________________
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