[Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma

Thu Dec 30 13:28:04 EST 2021

Hi Pierre

Thanks for the helpful input.  We’re hoping initially to get a good locksmith here to try to make a key.  (Blanks appear to be available in the US). Long shot but worth trying.   Without the codes, I’m not sure how they proceed, frankly, but ….

Short of that, it’ll have to be the entire locking assembly (which someone here can supply NOS).  My concern is finding someone to do a competent job replacing it.

As for my apparent – and uncharacteristic - lack of anger, it’s simply a function of exhaustion with mechanics in this area (upstate NY).   As for British cars, I also have a Mark 10 and a Range Rover Classic.  Over the years we’ve now lost an entire generation of competent foreign classic car mechanics.  There is a renowned Jag mechanic not too far away; he took good care of my Mark 10 over the decades but his son is not nearly as careful.   The torch is not being passed, I’m afraid.  For those, like myself, who are not mechanics, this is becoming a real labor of love.  (But I am an attorney and can assure you that my interests are not being ignored in this particular matter).

I also have 6 Peugeots and they, too, are a real struggle to keep on the road in the US.   There’s a superb shop, a former dealer, in Burlington VT, 200 miles away, and they take care of the Peugeots, the Rangie, and they overhauled the P6.   I may have to truck it back to them for the lock assembly job before this is over….

Bon courage with the isolation.   Thanks again

Bob

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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma

I have been following this thread without intervening because I hoped that someone in N. America would be able to help you with what you need, but so far that does not seem to have happened. I live in the UK.

I think you will have a real problem getting the key reproduced without one which can be copied. I have a similar problem here in the UK where I have lost the key to a car with a column lock, and my attempts through British Motor Heritage to get the necessary information foundered because they don't appear to have this sort of information for Rovers (although it would appear that it might be available for other marques).

I suspect that as others have already told you, the only solution is a new steering column lock assembly (although you will be able to re-use the electrical component if you just buy the lock part). I have a LHD assembly as used on European series 2 cars, but I do not know if it is the same as used on the Federal models, which might be the same as on the 3500S Auto. I did have some 3500S Auto ones, but I believe that I have now sold them all, but I can have a look. However, at the moment I have been stranded in France after a skiing holiday because I tested positive for Covid (although I have had all three injections), and the dear French want me to self isolate here for 10 days (several of which have now passed).

I am surprised at how little anger you appear to be displaying towards your mechanic who is the root cause of all this problem, having been extremely careless with your property. It would be my advice that you just buy a lock assembly and tell him he will have to pay all associated costs and fit it free of charge.

Pierre Janusz

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Thanks for all the good ideas. I'll follow up on that one also.
Bob

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Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma

Could the key number be obtained via a heritage certificate, or otherwise, and the buyer the right key from http://britishcarkeys.com ?

On Dec 29, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
Hi All

I’ve got Bob fixed up so he should be getting the rovernet again, and here’s the update. It’s confirmed that he has locking steering.

So the long story is he needs: key blanks or a used column lock with keys or (dreaming) a new assembly. Part number in 1974 was 620179, 2200 used the same appearing assembly but with part number 620264.

The lock should use a single sided key as far as a blank goes. A company called Clark & Clark in Michigan makes blanks for the correct era of BL cars, but that doesn't mean they make the right one for Bob’s early A suffix car.

Even better would be the body shop finding the key, I’ve still got my fingers crossed for Bob on that.

Yours
Vern

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