[Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 107, Issue 10

Tue Jun 28 12:19:37 EDT 2022

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cylinder, couldn't do the 2nd 1/2 and charged me $120 for the privilege!!!
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Good luck.

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>    1. REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Jonathan Present)
>    2. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Tom Rymes)
>    3. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Dermot Harvey)
>    4. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Tom Rymes)
>    5. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Vern Inkspot)
>    6. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (Tom Rymes)
>    7. Re: REQUEST FOR ADVICE (geffandjulie at comcast.net)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 12:29:51 -0700
> From: Jonathan Present <present.jonathan at gmail.com>
> To: "rovernet at rovernet.org" <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <971F5F7B-7EF9-4985-A6E2-1C605E281AE6 at pacbell.net>
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> Hello Roverites,
> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for a
> rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:52:47 -0400
> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Cc: Jonathan Present <present.jonathan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <62363F8B-50C6-4EF1-99AF-14F879937CD0 at rymes.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?Hello Roverites,
> > I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for a
> rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Rovernet at rovernet.org
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:51:20 -0400
> From: Dermot Harvey <rovermansd1 at gmail.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <5A9EED46-0632-4A01-931C-550A3CB1E45F at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=utf-8
>
> I have had problems with White Post also, and I don?t use them anymore.
> You don?t mention what White Post did to rebuild your caliper. I am
> assuming that the model of your Rover was a P6 (2000). Usually the
> hydraulic cylinder in the caliper leaks. If so, the cylinder has to be
> resleeved, preferably with stainless steel. You need a good machinist to do
> this.
> I used to use a guy in Mass? for rebuilding, but I think he has retired.
> Good Luck!
>
>
> Dermot Harvey
> Spectral Kinetics
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
> >
> >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Hello Roverites,
> >> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for a
> rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 18:12:09 -0400
> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <55A70A1E-BC72-4EBA-B186-186508285849 at rymes.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Dermot,
>
> Wouldn?t that only be true for Dunlop brakes? In those calipers, the
> sealing surface is in the cylinder itself, whereas the piston is the
> sealing surface in Girling calipers?
>
> Or is there something I?m missing?
>
> Tom
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Dermot Harvey via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?I have had problems with White Post also, and I don?t use them anymore.
> You don?t mention what White Post did to rebuild your caliper. I am
> assuming that the model of your Rover was a P6 (2000). Usually the
> hydraulic cylinder in the caliper leaks. If so, the cylinder has to be
> resleeved, preferably with stainless steel. You need a good machinist to do
> this.
> > I used to use a guy in Mass? for rebuilding, but I think he has retired.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> >
> > Dermot Harvey
> > Spectral Kinetics
> >
> >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hello Roverites,
> >>> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for
> a rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Rovernet mailing list
> >>> Rovernet at rovernet.org
> >>> http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org
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> >> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 15:24:16 -0700
> From: Vern Inkspot <vern at inkspotco.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <EF70DAC2-A1FB-48AE-9048-8BF2721C0ADC at inkspotco.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Girling rears are a little hydraulic piston running in a small bore, so
> the bore is the sealing surface.
>
> Yours
> Vern
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > Dermot,
> >
> > Wouldn?t that only be true for Dunlop brakes? In those calipers, the
> sealing surface is in the cylinder itself, whereas the piston is the
> sealing surface in Girling calipers?
> >
> > Or is there something I?m missing?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Dermot Harvey via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?I have had problems with White Post also, and I don?t use them
> anymore. You don?t mention what White Post did to rebuild your caliper. I
> am assuming that the model of your Rover was a P6 (2000). Usually the
> hydraulic cylinder in the caliper leaks. If so, the cylinder has to be
> resleeved, preferably with stainless steel. You need a good machinist to do
> this.
> >> I used to use a guy in Mass? for rebuilding, but I think he has retired.
> >> Good Luck!
> >>
> >>
> >> Dermot Harvey
> >> Spectral Kinetics
> >>
> >>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
> >>>
> >>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?Hello Roverites,
> >>>> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for
> a rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Rovernet mailing list
> >>>> Rovernet at rovernet.org
> >>>> http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org
> >>>
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> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 20:43:57 -0400
> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <25444888-1720-44BA-9D7C-7199C1CAD396 at rymes.net>
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> Interesting! Does anyone have photos? Or a diagram from the service parts
> manual?
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 6:25 PM, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?Girling rears are a little hydraulic piston running in a small bore, so
> the bore is the sealing surface.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:12 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dermot,
> >>
> >> Wouldn?t that only be true for Dunlop brakes? In those calipers, the
> sealing surface is in the cylinder itself, whereas the piston is the
> sealing surface in Girling calipers?
> >>
> >> Or is there something I?m missing?
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Dermot Harvey via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?I have had problems with White Post also, and I don?t use them
> anymore. You don?t mention what White Post did to rebuild your caliper. I
> am assuming that the model of your Rover was a P6 (2000). Usually the
> hydraulic cylinder in the caliper leaks. If so, the cylinder has to be
> resleeved, preferably with stainless steel. You need a good machinist to do
> this.
> >>> I used to use a guy in Mass? for rebuilding, but I think he has
> retired.
> >>> Good Luck!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dermot Harvey
> >>> Spectral Kinetics
> >>>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
> >>>>
> >>>>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ?Hello Roverites,
> >>>>> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year
> for a rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Rovernet mailing list
> >>>>> Rovernet at rovernet.org
> >>>>> http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org
> >>>>
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> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 08:37:13 -0700
> From: <geffandjulie at comcast.net>
> To: "'Rovernet'" <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
> Message-ID: <064601d88b04$f093d5a0$d1bb80e0$@comcast.net>
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> San Jose power brake did fine work on mine.
>
> Geff and Julie McCarthy
> 677 NW Melinda Ave
> Portland OR 97210
> 503-241-8468 (h)
> 503-799-3809 (m)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> On Behalf Of Tom Rymes via
> Rovernet
> Sent: 27 June 2022 15:12
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Cc: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
>
> Dermot,
>
> Wouldn?t that only be true for Dunlop brakes? In those calipers, the
> sealing surface is in the cylinder itself, whereas the piston is the
> sealing surface in Girling calipers?
>
> Or is there something I?m missing?
>
> Tom
>
> > On Jun 27, 2022, at 5:52 PM, Dermot Harvey via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?I have had problems with White Post also, and I don?t use them anymore.
> You don?t mention what White Post did to rebuild your caliper. I am
> assuming that the model of your Rover was a P6 (2000). Usually the
> hydraulic cylinder in the caliper leaks. If so, the cylinder has to be
> resleeved, preferably with stainless steel. You need a good machinist to do
> this.
> > I used to use a guy in Mass? for rebuilding, but I think he has retired.
> > Good Luck!
> >
> >
> > Dermot Harvey
> > Spectral Kinetics
> >
> >> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:52 PM, Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> It would help if you can specify where it is leaking from.
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 27, 2022, at 3:30 PM, Jonathan Present via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?Hello Roverites,
> >>> I send my rear brake caliper to White Post Restorations last year for
> a rebuild, it was installed and started to fail. I subsequently had it
> removed, sent back to them, and had it reinstalled, they maintained it was
> tested, however, it continues to leak. At this juncture I am a loss of how
> to proceed. I can send it back to them, with little confidence that it will
> continue to operate. I can try and locate another shop? Any advice is much
> appreciated. The cost of both installations was considerable. I am at an
> age where do it yourself is no longer feasible, without proper tools and a
> workspace.
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Rovernet mailing list
> >>> Rovernet at rovernet.org
> >>> http://rovernet.org/mailman/listinfo/rovernet_rovernet.org
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