[Rovernet] Starter for 2000TC

garrett bourque gbbourque at gmail.com
Mon Mar 21 22:48:44 EDT 2022 

Hello Robert/ Rovernet,
  The Lucas number should be 25673 according to a Lucas original parts
catalog.  Get a gear reduction one if you can locate one.  I have fit one
to multiple Jaguars, 70's small block Ford engines and old air cooled
Porsches that were 6 volt.
  Benefits are that the starter has less battery draw and they often turn
at a higher speed.  Internal parts are not worn out from years of use.  I
do have an early automatic one here, but do not think I have any others.
Good luck with your repairs, Garrett Bourque
........................


On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:39 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:

> Thanks.  I'm trying to get a gear reduction one locally from a builder,
> but am having problems.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> On Behalf Of Tom Rymes via
> Rovernet
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2022 10:36 PM
> To: rovernet at rovernet.org
> Cc: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Starter for 2000TC
>
> For what it's worth, I gave up on my original starter and bought a
> gear-reduction unit. I normally hate the gear-reduction units, but after a
> second rebuild of the original still resulted in iffy performance, I bought
> one from WOSP and have loved it ever since.
>
> I normally hesitate to fit a gear-reduction unit to any other classic, but
> I've been super-happy with this one. Perhaps it's because the 2000TC is
> high compression, but it seems to make a really big difference.
>
> I reached out to their US arm at info at wosperformance.com and I think they
> had it shipped the same day. Their website is
>
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> Tom
>
> On 03/21/2022 8:23 PM, Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet wrote:
> > *Place is having a hard time coming up with a starter that fits my 71
> > 2000TC.  They sent two so far.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *They’re supplying a brand new one, but the Allen nuts on the plate
> > aren’t fitting into the hole of the bell housing.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Anybody have any one, or at least has the Lucas number?  Mine appears
> > to the original to the car, but the numbers are hard to make out after
> > a number of rebuilds apparently.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Bob *
> >
> > **
> >
> > **
> >
> > *From:* Robert Ruggeri
> > *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:58 PM
> > *To:* Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > *Subject:* Starter for 2000TC
> >
> > *Hi all:*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Ignition key nightmare was solved;  Garrett Bourque provided a new
> > one.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Starter is not working right so I’m sourcing one from Classic Car
> > Performance (formerly British Starters.com) in nearby Saratoga
> > Springs.   They originally were going to build me a new one, but
> > decided to supply a new one for a Land Rover (from the 50-70 series)
> > which they claim is identical.  Does anyone know if that’s correct?
> > Are they exactly the same?*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Bob *
> >
> > **
> >
> > *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> >
> > *Attorney-at-Law*
> >
> > *1846 Union Street*
> >
> > *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> >
> > *Tel:  518.423.9755*
> >
> > *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> >
> > *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
> > <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>_*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *From:* Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org
> > <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *On Behalf Of *Robert Ruggeri
> > via Rovernet
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 1:28 PM
> > *To:* pierre janusz <pjemail at aol.com <mailto:pjemail at aol.com>>
> > *Cc:* robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
> > <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>; Rovernet
> > <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> >
> > *Hi Pierre*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Thanks for the helpful input.  We’re hoping initially to get a good
> > locksmith here to try to make a key.  (Blanks appear to be available
> > in the US). Long shot but worth trying.   Without the codes, I’m not
> > sure how they proceed, frankly, but ….*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Short of that, it’ll have to be the entire locking assembly (which
> > someone here can supply NOS). My concern is finding someone to do a
> > competent job replacing it.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *As for my apparent – and uncharacteristic - lack of anger, it’s
> > simply a function of exhaustion with mechanics in this area (upstate
> > NY).   As for British cars, I also have a Mark 10 and a Range Rover
> > Classic.  Over the years we’ve now lost an entire generation of
> > competent foreign classic car mechanics.  There is a renowned Jag
> > mechanic not too far away; he took good care of my Mark 10 over the
> > decades but his son is not nearly as careful.   The torch is not being
> > passed, I’m afraid.  For those, like myself, who are not mechanics,
> > this is becoming a real labor of love.  (But I am an attorney and can
> > assure you that my interests are not being ignored in this particular
> > matter). *
> >
> > **
> >
> > *I also have 6 Peugeots and they, too, are a real struggle to keep on
> > the road in the US.   There’s a superb shop, a former dealer, in
> > Burlington VT, 200 miles away, and they take care of the Peugeots, the
> > Rangie, and they overhauled the P6.   I may have to truck it back to
> > them for the lock assembly job before this is over…. *
> >
> > **
> >
> > */_Bon courage_/**with the isolation.   Thanks again*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Bob *
> >
> > *ROBERT E. RUGGERI*
> >
> > *1846 Union Street*
> >
> > *Niskayuna, NY 12309*
> >
> > *Tel:  518.423.9755*
> >
> > *Fax: 518.377.4646*
> >
> > *_robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
> > <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>_*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *From:* Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org
> > <mailto:rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org>> *On Behalf Of *pierre janusz
> > via Rovernet
> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 30, 2021 4:49 AM
> > *To:* rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>
> > *Cc:* pierre janusz <pjemail at aol.com <mailto:pjemail at aol.com>>
> > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> >
> > I have been following this thread without intervening because I hoped
> > that someone in N. America would be able to help you with what you
> > need, but so far that does not seem to have happened. I live in the UK.
> >
> > I think you will have a real problem getting the key reproduced
> > without one which can be copied. I have a similar problem here in the
> > UK where I have lost the key to a car with a column lock, and my
> > attempts through British Motor Heritage to get the necessary
> > information foundered because they don't appear to have this sort of
> > information for Rovers (although it would appear that it might be
> available for other marques).
> >
> > I suspect that as others have already told you, the only solution is a
> > new steering column lock assembly (although you will be able to re-use
> > the electrical component if you just buy the lock part). I have a LHD
> > assembly as used on European series 2 cars, but I do not know if it is
> > the same as used on the Federal models, which might be the same as on
> > the 3500S Auto. I did have some 3500S Auto ones, but I believe that I
> > have now sold them all, but I can have a look. However, at the moment
> > I have been stranded in France after a skiing holiday because I tested
> > positive for Covid (although I have had all three injections), and the
> > dear French want me to self isolate here for 10 days (several of which
> > have now passed).
> >
> > I am surprised at how little anger you appear to be displaying towards
> > your mechanic who is the root cause of all this problem, having been
> > extremely careless with your property. It would be my advice that you
> > just buy a lock assembly and tell him he will have to pay all
> > associated costs and fit it free of charge.
> >
> > Pierre Janusz
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org
> > <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> > To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>>
> > CC: Robert Ruggeri <robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com
> > <mailto:robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>>
> > Sent: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 2:42
> > Subject: Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> >
> > Thanks for all the good ideas. I'll follow up on that one also.
> >
> > Bob
> >
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> > *From:*Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org
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> > *Subject:* Re: [Rovernet] Bob's Key Dilemma
> >
> > Could the key number be obtained via a heritage certificate, or
> > otherwise, and the buyer the right key from
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> >     On Dec 29, 2021, at 5:24 PM, Vern Inkspot via Rovernet
> >     <rovernet at rovernet.org <mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi All
> >
> >     I’ve got Bob fixed up so he should be getting the rovernet again,
> >     and here’s the update. It’s confirmed that he has locking steering.
> >
> >     So the long story is he needs: key blanks or a used column lock with
> >     keys or (dreaming) a new assembly. Part number in 1974 was 620179,
> >     2200 used the same appearing assembly but with part number 620264.
> >
> >     The lock should use a single sided key as far as a blank goes. A
> >     company called Clark & Clark in Michigan makes blanks for the
> >     correct era of BL cars, but that doesn't mean they make the right
> >     one for Bob’s early A suffix car.
> >
> >     Even better would be the body shop finding the key, I’ve still got
> >     my fingers crossed for Bob on that.
> >
> >     Yours
> >
> >     Vern
> >
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