[Rovernet] Rovernet Digest, Vol 106, Issue 7
Kellogg, Charles
charlesk at darebritannia.com
Thu May 19 13:02:02 EDT 2022
Steven's words are all good. 1 other possible issue: if the coil has been
replaced it may B the wrong type (there are 2 basic types: ballasted and
non-ballasted, possibly changed B4 U bought it. The wrong type can melt the
rubbing block if U have points. ALSO having the wrong kind of plug wires
can cause issues; the wires must B the correct kind for points vs.
electronic pickups. If U have points 1 quick check is 2 make sure they're
both opening and have the correct gap. I suggest checking the fuel
pressure: s.b. about 1.75-2.25 PSI A bad condenser can go out slowly
and make diagnosis challenging. This is called an emerging problem.
Charles Kellogg
Director of Restorations
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1043 Kaiser Rd. SW, Unit C
Olympia, WA 98512, USA
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> 1. P6 dies after 20 minutes (Robert Ruggeri)
> 2. Re: P6 dies after 20 minutes (Steven Dibdin)
> 3. Re: P6 dies after 20 minutes (Tom Rymes)
> 4. Re: Rovernet Digest, Vol 106, Issue 6 (Kellogg, Charles)
> 5. Re: P6 dies after 20 minutes (larry williamson)
> 6. Re: P6 dies after 20 minutes (Gordon Reddy)
> 7. Re: P6 dies after 20 minutes (Robert Ruggeri)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 16:19:42 +0000
> From: Robert Ruggeri <robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>
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> Subject: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
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> Hi All:
>
> New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away with
> choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles fine for
> 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until cold).
>
> Something heating up, like a coil?
>
> Bob
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> From: Steven Dibdin <sdibdin at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
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> Check for spark first. If no spark check following:
>
> [1] Feel coil, does it feel too hot to touch? Take off low tension wires
> and measure across terminals with ohmmeter. It should read 1.5-3ohms. Full
> short and it's dead, infinite ohms and it's also dead.
> [2] I've seen ballast resistors fail this way too (work for a while then
> die). When car fails to start, measure resistance from wire coming from
> distributor to coil via tacho inside car. I believe its white with a black
> trace. If you see infinite ohms, ballast resistor is dead. Unfortunately
> that's built into the wiring harness inside the dash. Easiest solution is
> to run a new wire with an external ballast resistor of still using
> conventional ignition.
> [3] Have you changed the condenser recently? Modern ones have real problems
> with quality control and frequently fail shortly after fitting. You might
> want to upgrade to an electronic system such as pertronix, Accuspark or, my
> favorite magnatronic
> http://autocar-electrical.co.uk/lumenition-range/magnetronic-product-guide
>
> If you do have a spark, suspect no fuel. I had a problem where ethanol had
> attacked the rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pump. It only manifested
> itself when the car was warm and started as a small misfire until one day
> it died completely. Also check fuel line routing, heat can cause vapour
> lock, especially with ethanol based fuels due to their lower boiling point.
>
> Hope the above helps and good luck!
>
> Steven
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> > *Hi All:*
> >
> >
> >
> > *New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away
> with
> > choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles fine
> for
> > 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until cold).*
> >
> >
> >
> > *Something heating up, like a coil?*
> >
> >
> >
> > *Bob *
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> From: Tom Rymes <tom at rymes.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
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> Steven has a lot of good advice. I would also open the fuel filler and
> confirm that it isn?t under vacuum (though I find that quite unlikely).
>
> Tom
>
> > On May 18, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Check for spark first. If no spark check following:
> >
> > [1] Feel coil, does it feel too hot to touch? Take off low tension wires
> and measure across terminals with ohmmeter. It should read 1.5-3ohms. Full
> short and it's dead, infinite ohms and it's also dead.
> > [2] I've seen ballast resistors fail this way too (work for a while then
> die). When car fails to start, measure resistance from wire coming from
> distributor to coil via tacho inside car. I believe its white with a black
> trace. If you see infinite ohms, ballast resistor is dead. Unfortunately
> that's built into the wiring harness inside the dash. Easiest solution is
> to run a new wire with an external ballast resistor of still using
> conventional ignition.
> > [3] Have you changed the condenser recently? Modern ones have real
> problems with quality control and frequently fail shortly after fitting.
> You might want to upgrade to an electronic system such as pertronix,
> Accuspark or, my favorite magnatronic
> http://autocar-electrical.co.uk/lumenition-range/magnetronic-product-guide
> >
> > If you do have a spark, suspect no fuel. I had a problem where ethanol
> had attacked the rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pump. It only manifested
> itself when the car was warm and started as a small misfire until one day
> it died completely. Also check fuel line routing, heat can cause vapour
> lock, especially with ethanol based fuels due to their lower boiling point.
> >
> > Hope the above helps and good luck!
> >
> > Steven
> >
> >> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >> Hi All:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away
> with choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles
> fine for 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until cold).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Something heating up, like a coil?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
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> From: "Kellogg, Charles" <charlesk at darebritannia.com>
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> IMPO if your flex hoses haven't been replaced in a year or 2 I highly
> recommend
> doing that, especially if they're hard to access. These hoses can break
> down on the inside and introduce debris into the fluid and block the flow
> of brake fluid.
>
> Charles Kellogg
> Director of Restorations
> Dare Britannia, Ltd.
> 1043 Kaiser Rd. SW, Unit C
> Olympia, WA 98512, USA
> http://www.darebritannia.com/
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> *Thank you for your enquiry for our parts and services. We offer the
> highest-quality spare parts for the vintage Land -Rover. Our staff is
> minuscule while the demand for rare and ?unobtainable? parts for early
> Land-Rovers is relentless. While your concern is important to us, our
> ability to respond to each and every enquiry may be limited and stocks of
> many items are critically low.. We are primarily a restoration-based
> enterprise but when we have a surplus of a given item, we are able to
> offer excess stocks to our dedicated clients. If your need is urgent, we
> encourage you to contact us by phone, in person. Leaving a message is
> rarely effective, so we recommend direct contact. With many buildings full
> of parts, it is not always easy to locate obscure items, and the process is
> often time consuming. We hope you understand. Please
> provide complete details of your exact model including year, wheelbase,
> which side drive, engine, Country of origin, etc. When giving part numbers,
> please also state the catalogue number (typically found on the front
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> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:35:19 -0600
> > From: larry williamson <lewill4756 at gmail.com>
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> > Thanks to Tony and Malcolm. I am about to replace the calipers with new
> > ones. The question is this: is it possible to keep the hoses on both
> > calipers and fit them on together?. I will be working under a lift this
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> > Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 08:23:47 -0700
> > From: Vern Inkspot <vern at inkspotco.com>
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> > Only if you lower the rear of the diff some by removing the three bolts
> > holding the back of the diff to the mounting plate and removing the drive
> > shaft. The half shafts can stay attached. You?ll need some sort of
> support
> > so the diff doesn?t hang off the front mount ? a 2x4 cut to length works
> if
> > you?re got it up on a lift.
> >
> > Yours
> > Vern
> >
> > > On May 18, 2022, at 7:35 AM, larry williamson via Rovernet <
> > rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks to Tony and Malcolm. I am about to replace the calipers with new
> > ones. The question is this: is it possible to keep the hoses on both
> > calipers and fit them on together?. I will be working under a lift this
> > time Yay. Larry
> > >
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> I had a P6 that would stall and then after sitting for a few minutes it
> would go again for a while. It was the condenser that was the problem . I
> change it and all was well. Larry
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:22 AM Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> > Steven has a lot of good advice. I would also open the fuel filler and
> > confirm that it isn?t under vacuum (though I find that quite unlikely).
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On May 18, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet <
> > rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> > ?
> > Check for spark first. If no spark check following:
> >
> > [1] Feel coil, does it feel too hot to touch? Take off low tension wires
> > and measure across terminals with ohmmeter. It should read 1.5-3ohms.
> Full
> > short and it's dead, infinite ohms and it's also dead.
> > [2] I've seen ballast resistors fail this way too (work for a while then
> > die). When car fails to start, measure resistance from wire coming from
> > distributor to coil via tacho inside car. I believe its white with a
> black
> > trace. If you see infinite ohms, ballast resistor is dead. Unfortunately
> > that's built into the wiring harness inside the dash. Easiest solution is
> > to run a new wire with an external ballast resistor of still using
> > conventional ignition.
> > [3] Have you changed the condenser recently? Modern ones have real
> > problems with quality control and frequently fail shortly after fitting.
> > You might want to upgrade to an electronic system such as pertronix,
> > Accuspark or, my favorite magnatronic
> >
> http://autocar-electrical.co.uk/lumenition-range/magnetronic-product-guide
> >
> > If you do have a spark, suspect no fuel. I had a problem where ethanol
> had
> > attacked the rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pump. It only manifested
> > itself when the car was warm and started as a small misfire until one day
> > it died completely. Also check fuel line routing, heat can cause vapour
> > lock, especially with ethanol based fuels due to their lower boiling
> point.
> >
> > Hope the above helps and good luck!
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> > rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> *Hi All:*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away
> >> with choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles
> >> fine for 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until
> cold).*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Something heating up, like a coil?*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *Bob *
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> From: Gordon Reddy <gorgowof at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
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> I had a problem with the tank breather line. It had somehow stretched and
> closed itself off where it travelled through the rear deck to the B pillar.
> I doubt that's the problem but if you open the filler cap and hear air
> rushing in and/or run the car with the cap open and it is fine then that's
> the problem. I tend to agree with the condenser theory.
> Cheers,
> Gord
>
> On Wed, 18 May 2022 at 16:00, larry williamson via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
>
> > I had a P6 that would stall and then after sitting for a few minutes it
> > would go again for a while. It was the condenser that was the problem . I
> > change it and all was well. Larry
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:22 AM Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> > rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Steven has a lot of good advice. I would also open the fuel filler and
> >> confirm that it isn?t under vacuum (though I find that quite unlikely).
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On May 18, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet <
> >> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?
> >> Check for spark first. If no spark check following:
> >>
> >> [1] Feel coil, does it feel too hot to touch? Take off low tension wires
> >> and measure across terminals with ohmmeter. It should read 1.5-3ohms.
> Full
> >> short and it's dead, infinite ohms and it's also dead.
> >> [2] I've seen ballast resistors fail this way too (work for a while then
> >> die). When car fails to start, measure resistance from wire coming from
> >> distributor to coil via tacho inside car. I believe its white with a
> black
> >> trace. If you see infinite ohms, ballast resistor is dead. Unfortunately
> >> that's built into the wiring harness inside the dash. Easiest solution
> is
> >> to run a new wire with an external ballast resistor of still using
> >> conventional ignition.
> >> [3] Have you changed the condenser recently? Modern ones have real
> >> problems with quality control and frequently fail shortly after fitting.
> >> You might want to upgrade to an electronic system such as pertronix,
> >> Accuspark or, my favorite magnatronic
> >>
> http://autocar-electrical.co.uk/lumenition-range/magnetronic-product-guide
> >>
> >> If you do have a spark, suspect no fuel. I had a problem where ethanol
> >> had attacked the rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pump. It only
> manifested
> >> itself when the car was warm and started as a small misfire until one
> day
> >> it died completely. Also check fuel line routing, heat can cause vapour
> >> lock, especially with ethanol based fuels due to their lower boiling
> point.
> >>
> >> Hope the above helps and good luck!
> >>
> >> Steven
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> >> rovernet at rovernet.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> *Hi All:*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away
> >>> with choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles
> >>> fine for 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until
> cold).*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Something heating up, like a coil?*
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> *Bob *
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> From: Robert Ruggeri <robert.ruggeri.esq at outlook.com>
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
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> As always, many thanks for the good advice. I?ll follow up and let you
> know at some point.
>
> Bob
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> From: Rovernet <rovernet-bounces at rovernet.org> On Behalf Of larry
> williamson via Rovernet
> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 7:00 PM
> To: Rovernet <rovernet at rovernet.org>
> Cc: larry williamson <lewill4756 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rovernet] P6 dies after 20 minutes
>
> I had a P6 that would stall and then after sitting for a few minutes it
> would go again for a while. It was the condenser that was the problem . I
> change it and all was well. Larry
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 11:22 AM Tom Rymes via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> Steven has a lot of good advice. I would also open the fuel filler and
> confirm that it isn?t under vacuum (though I find that quite unlikely).
>
> Tom
>
>
> On May 18, 2022, at 12:33 PM, Steven Dibdin via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> ?
> Check for spark first. If no spark check following:
>
> [1] Feel coil, does it feel too hot to touch? Take off low tension wires
> and measure across terminals with ohmmeter. It should read 1.5-3ohms. Full
> short and it's dead, infinite ohms and it's also dead.
> [2] I've seen ballast resistors fail this way too (work for a while then
> die). When car fails to start, measure resistance from wire coming from
> distributor to coil via tacho inside car. I believe its white with a black
> trace. If you see infinite ohms, ballast resistor is dead. Unfortunately
> that's built into the wiring harness inside the dash. Easiest solution is
> to run a new wire with an external ballast resistor of still using
> conventional ignition.
> [3] Have you changed the condenser recently? Modern ones have real
> problems with quality control and frequently fail shortly after fitting.
> You might want to upgrade to an electronic system such as pertronix,
> Accuspark or, my favorite magnatronic
> http://autocar-electrical.co.uk/lumenition-range/magnetronic-product-guide
> <
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> If you do have a spark, suspect no fuel. I had a problem where ethanol had
> attacked the rubber diaphragm inside the fuel pump. It only manifested
> itself when the car was warm and started as a small misfire until one day
> it died completely. Also check fuel line routing, heat can cause vapour
> lock, especially with ethanol based fuels due to their lower boiling point.
>
> Hope the above helps and good luck!
>
> Steven
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2022 at 12:20 PM Robert Ruggeri via Rovernet <
> rovernet at rovernet.org<mailto:rovernet at rovernet.org>> wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> New starter is working fine on the 2000TC. Car starts up right away with
> choke. Holds a nice idle a minute later with no choke. Car idles fine for
> 20 minutes then dies. Car will not start thereafter (until cold).
>
> Something heating up, like a coil?
>
> Bob
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